Is this the end?

Actually yes.

Everything I stated is true. The area I showed is one of the unhealthiest, one of the worse zones throughout the entire covid of it spreading, an are where they typically are anti science, and an are where a specific political view tends to dominate it. What did I say that’s not true?

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It’s like seatbelts. You’re old enough to remember (maybe not the latter :grin:) when seatbelts were first mandated to be in cars. People got upset, but then they began to submit to the law. It’s in the public’s interest economically to not lose productive workers so that they can add to the GDP, not to mention the other related costs that subtract from our overall welfare.

Christians should be setting the example and be known for it, to the renown of their Lord. It’s just the opposite, isn’t it, as you so nicely illustrated. There’s irony in the fact that mask wearers are being “ultraconservative”.

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I’m getting a feeling of deja vu… like we had this exact same conversation with some of these exact same examples just a few months into the pandemic. :crazy_face:

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I have that feeling quite often. And it is I think nearly certain that very few of us ever generate an entirely new thought or argument here any more. But if we were to recycle last year’s words, cut-n-paste style, they just wouldn’t have the same freshness about them I suppose. (except to new readers and those of us like me who have short memories.)

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That’s true… there are a lot of the same types of topics discussed here. Perhaps I remember this one because it was overly repetitious without resolution. Maybe it’s okay as long as it only happens once a year. :wink:

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I recently saw this message: “A vaccine is free; hospitalization isn’t.” What’s the current U.S. statistic on those who have been vaccinated subsequently being hospitalized?

Speaking of déjà vu: Does any one remember the mandatory U.S. seat belt law of the 1980s?
First It Was Seat Belts. Now It’s Vaccines

Moderna announced Thursday morning its Covid-19 shot is about 93% effective through six months after the second dose. Pfizer in July said the effectiveness of its jab steadily declines to about 84% six months after the final dose. Both vaccine makers have said they expect booster shots to be necessary ahead of the winter season, particularly due to the threat of the delta variant.

The next more deadly variant isn’t on the scene, yet, at least as far as anyone knows. It is predicted based on the Covid virus’s mutation rate, and the liklihood of a more deadly strain surviving if we don’t wipe out Covid before winter.

Fauci warned in the interview that the U.S. is “very lucky” to have vaccines that have held up against the variants, suggesting that may not be the case if even more severe strains emerge.

“If another one comes along that has an equally high capability of transmitting but is also much more severe, then we could really be in trouble,” Fauci told McClatchy. “People who are not getting vaccinated mistakenly think it’s only about them. But it isn’t. It’s about everybody else, also.”

The U.S. is reporting a seven-day average of nearly 94,000 new cases as of Aug. 4, up 48% from one week ago, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. In a separate measure from the average, the U.S. actually topped 100,000 daily new cases on Monday and Tuesday.

mutation

Viruses are the most baffling, mysterious, incredible forms of non-life in existence. They are dead/live geniuses.

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I wonder how herd immunity worked out for ,… and India, and Brazil, and South Africa, and…

Nice graphic. Where’s it from?

Nature 2020 Sept

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It depends on some participants and m/V.

I am going to donate my appendix to science for 10 billion bucks. I’ve never had the flu. Never had nothing really except broken bones. I’m convinced, based on my own research, that viruses hate my guts. They approach me, take a look around, and bolt at record breaking speed. There is something so disgusting, so foul, so repulsive and vile about me, that even viruses become ill at the thought of attacking me. (Sort of like the girls I tried to date.)

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I don’t know. I think prions can give them a run for their money lol. Cell-less, non metabolizing non living things that contain no dna/rna. While viruses still contain some dna/rna.

But both are cool.

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I’m looking forward (not really – I’m too old) to gut biome pills. I’m guessing they’re more than ten years out, but donated appendices* will help. :slightly_smiling_face:

 


* Is that a thing? :slightly_smiling_face:

Climate Change: A Jewish Moral Issue

If society deems something appropriate should we follow the mandate or sacrifice our freedumb?

I am not sure how that question is relevant to the discussion, as society has not mandated mask wearing (in many venues) or a requirement for injection of a vaccine that has only an emergency authorization. There is much discussion on several sides of the issues and things aren’t settled or mandated.

Did you mean to write “freedumb,” as if the concept of freedom is somehow a stupid thing? Is this meant to be an intentional insult to those of us who seem to value freedom more (or differently) than others do? If so, I encourage you to reconsider the use of such misspellings. An insult is not really a good argument.

As a Christian, I see my role as following God rather than society. Some mandates of society, such as the gathering of Jews for extermination by the Nazi society, should be resisted.

On topics not clearly mentioned in scripture (such as masks and vaccines), different people of good intentions and good morals will often differ on what is the appropriate response or action.

We’ve already talked about your mistaken concepts of freedom, so we are not just talking about difference of opinion but defective thinking.
 

And not embarrassing the rest of us. (Eric Metaxas’ behavior comes to mind.)
 
 


¹And that certainly includes public health and safety, not insisting on their right not to wear a stupid seatbelt… or a mask.

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Mask and vaccination mandates are a good thing, giving us freedom from illness. People on ventilators have lost some freedom, I think we can safely say. If mandates had been utilized universally earlier and humbly submitted to, rather than the false nobility of resisting them ‘for freedom’s sake’, we would not have as many new variants in the pipeline. Wisdom, not unchristian rebellion as some are ignorantly promoting (even from the pulpit), could have greatly minimized or prevented the surge we are now in.
 

Delta also appears to be mutating further, with reports emerging of a “Delta Plus” variant, a sub-lineage that carries an additional mutation that has been shown to evade immune protection.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-variants-explainer-idUSKBN2F90CO

 


(There may be a few readers that do not know that more disease transmission means more sick people replicating more virus, thus increasing the number of inevitable viral mutations and variants.)

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