Is Satan a chaos creature?

[riversea]

I didn’t know about this that you wrote

@adamjedgar

Also, another concept i have read that is in error…scapegoat.

The bible Sanctuary Service very clearly outlines what the role of the scapegoat is. The priest comes out of the tabernacle after the cleansing ritual and places his hands onto the scapegoat. This goat is then released into the wilderness to wander aimlessly…it is cast out.

The point of the scapegoat is to illustrate to the Israelites that ultimately, Satan will receive the responsibility for all humanity’s sins…he will then be cast out into the wilderness. This is a metaphor really…generally the scapegoat historically was expected to die. There is evidence to suggest it was thrown off a cliff by the Levites actually. Either way, the point is, the scapegoat in the wilderness without any support or safety of the camp will die. That is what will happen to the devil also after the judgement (as explained in the book of Revelation)

I always associated spiritual air pull.
I think what happened with me is I known of God before knowing of religion.
I don’t mind people being with their religions what I don’t like is when people are excluded from God.
I never found that that anyone is excluded from unconditional love God that needs no conditions. I understand about relationship with God. Also that Devil spiritual air, works for God. So won’t be separated from God. The devil or Satan, isn’t separated from God. So Satan and Devil are already saved too by Jesus blood then, according to universalist Christians. Because like @Klax said, something of

@Klax

Because the God we see through a glass darkly in Christ, for the first time, is still golden head in the clouds above His Jewish feet of clay.

Well nothing is below Jewish feet. Because if so then that area Jesus failed at then. Was Jesus completed or not completed?

@adamjedgar

I think you misunderstand the concept of what happened to Jesus on the cross. Neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit blocked themselbes from Jesus as Christ was dying…that is wrong. In fact, the opposite is true, they were as close to the Son as they had ever been throughout his life as a human being on earth.
What in reality happened, and this is explained throughout the bible, is that the consequences of taking all of the sins of the world upon himself were such that it was sin that blocked Jesus from being able to feel and see the Father and the Holy Spirit. Sin clouded the bond between them such that Jesus honestly thought that his Father had forsaken Him.
Just thought it very important that I correct the theological error in your post here as its important that you understand this fundamental about Christianity. We are all separated from the Father because of sin…what it did to Jesus it has done to all of us.

I went to God just as I am and I learn from God how to allow God more in my situations, I actually went to God for protection as the abuse continued, I always thought people would debate how come God didn’t make it stop., but I actually went to God for protection, can you believe that, but I didn’t have all this education how to go to God, I just go to God just as I am, for God is my home and protection, a place I can go to to hide.

@Dale @Terry_Sampson @adamjedgar @Klax @bharatjj @mitchellmckain

Here’s an example: A Christian is worried that their salvation didn’t take

@Celticroots

As I have bad anxiety I sometimes wonder if my salvation is at stake because I believe. Has anyone else had fears like this?

I don’t have this fear. For I know God who lives me already accepts me. I understand through relationship as God is my best friend. I don’t have to be anything or do anything, I can be me just as I am. No performance needed. No seeking approval. I can go to God and allow God teach me in the midst of my situations, about how to allow more, so can experience God more in situations

@GJDS

universalists that everyone will be saved

Here is a thread: Yet another discussion of universal salvation

I yet need to read through this thread.

The purpose of showing this is universalist Christians includes all that everyone is saved.

@bharatjj and I believe in reincarnation

I don’t understand this idea why only one time on earth, all for what? What’s the purpose - one time on earth that Christians believe?

I’m relief to know that there’s Christians who includes all in their understanding of spirituality and salvation, understanding that all are saved.

Are there any universalist Christians in this forum, who would be interested to share their understandings here?

@Klax are you an universalist believing all are saved?

I notice you’re the one who started the Yet another discussion of universal salvation

@Klax

@Jay313

I lean toward annihilation, but I don’t think any of us will know for sure until the last day.

I know now. That love wins. [Whoops! A frowned upon one liner, when one should write a paragraph saying the same thing with far less impact. Virtually everyone here, not surprisingly as virtually everyone is an Evangelical, a Protestant, a Lutheran, and even folk Roman Catholics believe the same, doesn’t believe that God is competent, is actually omnipotent. Or worse.]

@bharatjj are you an universalist

@bharatjj

@riversea

1 Corinthians 15:22 New International Version (NIV)

22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive

Adam was living in a state of primitive bliss in connection with God. He “sinned,” meaning that he started to use his own mind and, in the process, potentially disconnected with God. Jesus brought Adam’s descendants back into connection with God