The Hebrews believed Heaven to be above the dome of the firmament , which is the way many people think of it today. However, given what we are told about Heaven it may not be a physical location in our space/time. God certainly exists outside of space/time so it is reasonable to assume that Heaven would also
RS: this led me to wrote about above the dome of the firmament
How do you know you know the true God – I’m not convinced that you do. You can call whatever it is whatever you want. The Holy Spirit leads us to the truth about Jesus, and anything other than that is not the working of the Holy Spirit and is not true.
Do you think true thoughts about Jesus? If you don’t, then whatever you think it is that is teaching and feeding you is teaching you wrongly and you should not allow it.
@riversea you first brought up something that appears to be from a modern flat earth web site. As Christy pointed out the moderators don’t allow discussion of a modern flat earth belief as it is rather pointless.
I mentioned the ancient Hebrew concept of a dome with heaven above and this is ok to discuss.
Bottom line, you appeared to indicate you believe in an actual dome and therefore a flat earth and I was just responding with that is an ancient, and inaccurate, conception.
Seems? How can you possibly think that a prophecy against Israel’s sins is “an argument against Israel’s exclusivity?” Read Micah Chapter 6.
The Prophet Micah addresses Israel specifically and says:
Listen to what Yahweh says: “Stand up, plead my case before the mountains; let the hills hear what you have to say.
“Hear, you mountains, Yahweh’s accusation; listen, you everlasting foundations of the earth. For Yahweh has a case against his people; he is lodging a charge against Israel.
“My people, what have I done to you? How have I burdened you? Answer me.
I brought you up out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. I sent Moses to lead you, also Aaron and Miriam.
My people, remember what Balak king of Moab plotted and what Balaam son of Beor answered. Remember your journey from Shittim to Gilgal, that you may know the righteous acts of Yahweh.”
With what shall I come before Yahweh and bow down before the exalted God? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old?
Will Yahweh be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of olive oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression,the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?
He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does Yahweh require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
Listen! The Lord is calling to the city—and to fear your name is wisdom—“Heed the rod and the One who appointed it.
Am I still to forget your ill-gotten treasures, you wicked house, and the short ephah, which is accursed?
Shall I acquit someone with dishonest scales, with a bag of false weights?
Your rich people are violent; your inhabitants are liars and their tongues speak deceitfully.
Therefore, I have begun to destroy you, to ruin you because of your sins.
You will eat but not be satisfied; your stomach will still be empty. You will store up but save nothing, because what you save I will give to the sword.
You will plant but not harvest; you will press olives but not use the oil, you will crush grapes but not drink the wine.
You have observed the statutes of Omri and all the practices of Ahab’s house; you have followed their traditions. Therefore I will give you over to ruin and your people to derision; you will bear the scorn of the nations.”
No problem. Nobody did anything wrong. Nobody is in trouble.
All we were doing was clarifying that the future discussion on this thread should not include arguments about whether or not the earth actually is a rotating globe that circles the sun. Everyone is free to discuss what the original ancient audience in Bible times thought and how that affects Scripture interpretation.