The name ‘Moses’ definitely seems to have Egyptian connections to a word meaning ‘is born’ which shows up in Egyptian names like Thutmose (meaning son of Thoth and a Thutmose likely was ruling Egypt in 1500 BCE), Amenmose, Ramose. Aaron may be derived from “aha rw” meaning radiant lion.
So exactly how many Indus words are found in Late Egyptian? If there is one there should be others. And what group of people carried these words to Egypt? It would have to be a large group if the locals adopted their words.
Where did this word come from and why bring it up?
And why are you expecting to find Hebrew names in Egypt? There were slaves after all. And Mitsrayim is what the Hebrews called Egypt just like the Greeks called it Aegyptos and the Egyptians called it Kemet.
His paper answers the following questions.
That they are common nouns isn’t a problem. Is it the frequency they are used. And BTW he does answer all of these questions in the paper.
But migrants know that the new Liverpool isn’t the same location as their home. In fact sometimes they call it “New London” for example. I know you think there was a great cultural amnesia but you really haven’t done anything to prove that it did happen.
That is only one proposed location which doesn’t fit the geography described in Genesis. A better location has been identified.
Indus script is not deciphered.
That is the place of crossing. Pl see the Bible.
Not that I can see anywhere.
How do you explain the parallel proper names in same genealogical order in india?
You. But migrants know that the new Liverpool isn’t the same location as their home. In fact sometimes they call it “New London” for example.
Not always as u say.
You have make a comparative study.
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I learn a new word ‘loanwords’
The definition of loanwords is “borrow from another language.”
Here’s a 59 seconds clip from Benjamin J. Noonan explaining what is loanwords
Personal scene of amnesia
Mom told me what happened, yet I have no memory of what happened. What would have happened if Mom never told me? Yet I still went through the situations, but I have no memories of what happened.
Is history or the past dependent on people sharing their stories? Because where does history or the past go when it is not shared?
Very young people don’t retain many memories and often the “memory” they have is the result of a parent telling them a story. Then there is cultural memory which is the result of adults and children sharing information that is retained because it is known by so many members of the culture. A memory can get lost over time if enough of the adults stop sharing it.
It appears to be yet another Egyptian loan word.
Well I can see the answers.
They don’t always use the exact same name was my point. The fact remains when they use the same name they know it isn’t the same location.
I agree. But as I said the words could coMe from Indus to egypt, and again Indus to hebrew. Neither is proof. We have to look at the totality of evidence as I gave in my previous posts.
In what language?
Pi ha-Chiyroth <06367>
tryxh yp Pi ha-Chiyroth
| Pronunciation: | pee hah-khee-roth’ |
|---|---|
| Origin: | from 06310 and the fem. pl. of a noun (from the same root as 02356), with the article interpolated |
| Reference: | - |
| PrtSpch: | noun proper locative |
| In Hebrew: | tryxh 4 |
| In NET: | Pi-hahiroth 4 |
| In AV: | Pihahiroth 4 |
| Count: | 4 |
| Definition: | Pi-hahiroth = “place where sedge grows” |
- the 3rd encampment of the Israelites after leaving Goshen in Egypt
and the last one before crossing the Red Sea|
What is that source?
If it was Hebrew it could mean ‘mouth of the gorges’.
Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance
Pi-hahiroth
From peh and the feminine plural of a noun (from the same root as chowr), with the article interpolated; mouth of the gorges; Pi-ha-Chiroth, a place in Egypt – Pi-hahiroth. (In Numbers 14:19 without Pi-.)
Sedges easily grow in coastal marsh.
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No explicit answer. (Do I detect a trend? Or is that the norm. ; - )
Please explain how Indus words got to Egypt and were accepted into the Egyptian language just in time to be picked up by the Israelites. Is there any archeological evidence for people from the Indus Valley being present in Egypt? The loan words came from Late Egyptian (dated near the time of the Exodus) and not the earlier Middle Egyptian.
So far I have seen a totality of speculation on your part.
You started with Moses was “dark” so why bring up the story of God showing His power? And then you say he had a connection with “darkness” when his normal skin color, like everyone around him, was dark? Was everyone connected to darkness and therefore everyone had a connection to Krishna?
Could be Egyptian or Hebrew. If interested see Pi-hahiroth | The amazing name Pi-hahiroth: meaning and etymology
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The closest I could find for more info is a quote of “Jablonsky proposed the Coptic pi-Achirot, “the place where sedge grows””. Jablonsky, or earlier Jablonski, seems to have first been mentioned in connection with this particular translation in “An Exposition of the Whole Old Testament, Critical, Doctrinal, and Practical”, by John Gill, 1778, (on p. 577). I would guess this is the Paul Ernst Jablonski who wrote “De terra gosen”, published 1735.
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Strongs. Netbible.
I quoted Strong’s. You did not.
It’s all garbage anyway. Sedges grow right by the sea. In Norfolk. Lancashire. Devon. Dorset. Cornwall. Kent. Suffolk. West Sussex. Lincolnshire. Yorkshire. Cumbria. Scotland. Wales. Ireland. The Netherlands. Spain. Greece. Malta. Italy. France. Kuwait. Morocco. Egypt.
You use the Net Bible’s definition of the Strong’s concordance number, but that definition doesn’t match what is in the actual Strong’s Concordance. Hence the confusion. So in the future please make clear you are using the Net Bible. Here is what Strong’s says.
And as Klax indicates sedges are found world wide. Check the distribution map at Wikipedia.
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