I’ve been waiting for over 50 years, and have yet to actually see them. I’m sure not allowed to test them for myself, and according to 1 Thess 5:21-22, as well as other passages, until I can, I’m not to rest my faith on them.
actual evidence is not the interpretation of evidence. At a certain point, you have to decide-- whom are you going to believe?
People who were present, or people who were not, but have really great imaginations?
As God is the only one who was present for creation, how can you rely on the interpretations of people who’ve previously rejected God, outright, and have chosen, as Paul said in 2 Thess. 2— chosen rather to believe the lie, because they take pleasure in unrighteousness?
The problem I have with “science” is not the actual evidence. Rather, it’s the propogation of speculation, and dreamy ideas which claim things took place in a manner which removes God from the picture altogether.
This requires that I believe THEM, instead of acknowledging that the evidence exists, and doesn’t fit the preconceptions, and biases.
You’re assuming I believe something I’ve not stated.
I don’t simplistically buy James Ussher’s explanation of the age of the earth. Nor do I buy the simplistic explanation of the “scientific” community of the age of the earth.
Both leave far more questions than answers.
Here’s a novel thought.
How about dump them both, and start with the actual facts.
Rocks, fossilized bones, God’s testimony that he spoke the cosmos into existence, etc…
In my experience— people who turn away from faith do so not because the evidence disagrees with the bible, but that the bible and the evidence do not fit the simplistically developed explanations developed by simplistic minds on both arenas, and they’re too small-minded to take the time to learn the truth.
When Ockham developed his “Ockham’s Razor” hypothesis, he said simple, NOT easy.
People today conflate the ideas of simple and easy all too often.
As followers of Jesus, we are called to a deeper realm of thought, and reality.
We do not… well, no one actually does… get off easy, because it did not fit our biases and preconceived notions.
God neither asks, nor commands people to abandon logic and reason. That you’ve said this is a demonstration that you’ve completely missed it.
According to 1 Cor. 1:18-29, Isaiah 29, and copious other passages, God commands that we abandon MAn’s ideas of logic and reason.
We see in Isaiah 55, that God’s thoughts, and God’s ways are far superior to man’s, in as much as the heavens are higher than the earth.
The 1 Cor. 1 passage, quoting Isaiah 29 says that man’s ways are foolish to God’s, and that God will show man’s folly for what it really is. It further states that the wisdom of God is viewed as folly to man, but God’s folly is so far superior to man’s greatest wisdom as to be incomparable.
Jesus rebuked Peter in Matthew 16 because he “saw as man sees, and not as God sees”, just a few brief moments after Peter did see as God sees.
This is why Adam failed in the garden. He did not believe God, but rather believed his wife’s testimony of the fruit, AFTER she was deceived by the serpent.
You have a choice… whom shall you believe?
Man? The opinions of men? Those who’ve rejected the life of God, because it does not fit their biases, and preconceived notions of how things “should be”?
Or do you take the time to stop, listen, and come directly to the throne of God, through Jesus, in prayer, on bended knee, acknowledging the lack of knowledge you possess, and the infinite knowledge God does possess?
He’s opened up his word, welcoming all who will come. As he said in Isaiah 57:15–
God, the High and Holy One who inhabits eternity, dwells with those who are of a contrite spirit, and a humble heart.
He tells us in Jeremiah 24:7— I will give them a heart to know me…
He welcomes, and invites us in Isaiah 55— ho, you who are thirsty, and hungry, why do you spend your wealth on that which does not saitsfy? Come, and buy for free that which fills the soul.
Yeah, I studied physics. I studied math. Actually did fairly well at both. I learned something during my studies, partly due to my cancer, and the doctor’s reactions to my repeated recurrences, and ongoing longevity— science doesn’t know as much as some folks like to claim. I stopped buying their claims well over a decade ago, because of that. Thankfully, my oncologists, and doctors were honest enough to tell me— we have no idea why you’re alive. According to medical science, you should be dead. So, whatever you’re doing— keep at it.
The only thing I was doing was praying, and reading my bible, learning to understand who God is, and what he wants of me.
I’ve learned something there that no scientists have ever understood—
God dwells with the humble and contrite. According to Psalm 25:14, he shares his secrets with those who fear him. According to Psalm 147:11, he delights in those who fear him.
As such, I’ll start as a child, and learn to first crawl, then walk, then run. I’ll continue my education, and when I arrive in his presence, I’ll learn what I could only speculate about here on earth. Thankfully, I’ll have all eternity to do that.