India and Pakistan are modern names of the Indus Valley Civilization. Goshen and Rameses too would be located in the Indus Valley.
Oh, and what does any of this misappropriation have to do with Jesus the Gospel?
Thank you for explaining this. I think I understand now. I really learn a lot from you, but it takes me a little bit longer to understand., especially when it feels all confusing because names from past, present, and how one location combines areas of two countries.
I surely over time had improved reading maps., had a lot of fun at google maps looking up these places and learn that one can click on videos at google map and see many videos that people uploaded in that area., I had a sense of location through their videos at google map
Ruach Ha-kodesh lives in us all and including years past during Exodus era., as none of us is separated as we’re all connected spiritually, I allow Ruach Ha-kodesh teach me
I learn later the golden calf is about 4 inches tall. That makes more sense due to only using Jewelry. Wow I never heard of a bellows., I look that up and that makes wind. Online it explains Bellow is a device with an air bag that emits a stream of air when squeezed together with two handles, used for blowing air into a fire
You really know how to do all this
I was looking at the wooden stove here at my dad’s place., is there a bellow here., I don’t see one. I’ll look more later I’ll also ask my dad if he uses a bellow, I just see a poke device., its been years sense that wooden stove was used
Oh I just asked my dad and he said no, he’ll never use a bellow for this wooden stove., its mainly for heating., one can cook on it, but its mainly for heating
King David had Canaanite blood in him right?
What practices continues from the Canaanite, are there any Canaanite practices today?
I believe Ruach Ha-Kodesh lives in everyone and Ruach Ha-Kodesh lives in those people during Exodus era., do you believe this too?
Both Tamar and Rahab in David’s ancestry were Canaanite, at least in the more general sense. Cannanite is sometimes used as a general term for the inhabitants of Canaan and sometimes as one of a list of several peoples in the region. The Bible does not record whether they fit the more restricted definition of Canaanite.
Although there are claims that significant components of Judaism derived from Canaanite practices (e.g., the fantasy that Zadok was Jebusite), there is not a significant component of what is known to be specifically Canaanite in religion that survives today. (Of course, the fact that we have limited data on the Canaanites means that confident conclusions are quite limited) The carryover from general Near Eastern religion into Judaism is not generally theological but ritual. For example, it’s assumed in the Pentateuch that everyone knows something about the general types of sacrifices, but here’s how to properly offer them to YHWH. “You’re already familiar with the basic idea of a portable tabernacle, but here are the details.” Those aspects of Judaism have largely been lost in practice with the destruction of the Second Temple.
Probably a number of Canaanite practices for everyday practical life in the area of Israel continue, at least until the advent of modern technology. And of course, use of an alphabet continues quite widely.
The idea that the Holy Spirit lives in everyone needs careful qualification. In one sense, God is at work in everyone - “in Him we live and move and have our being”. But there is also a sense in which the Spirit is not present in unbelievers. Although the differences are sometimes exaggerated, there seems to be a difference in degree or pattern in the Spirit’s presence with believers after Pentecost.
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It has been calculated that just the right wind would have set up a seiche that would have parted one of the Bitter Lakes along the current route of the Suez Canal. Exodus does mention the use of wind to part the “sea”. (I read reference to the study in a rather unfortunate article that combined the attitude of “all I need to know about the Old Testament I learned from someone who had heard of Marcion” with “no god of the no gaps”.)
The geography of the exodus as recorded in the Pentateuch fits with Sinai. Again, the number of people involved, from geography, archaeology, and more cautious translation (‘clan’ rather than ‘thousand’, etc.) is tens of thousands, not millions.
Cultures do evolve over time. But that evolution is far less constrained in mechanisms and connectivity than biological evolution, and they are commonly impacted by invasions. Claims that cultures automatically evolve along a regular pattern are historically dishonest. Like earth history, human history is not humanly predictable in many aspects.
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Art is communication that I learn from.
In this thread is when I finally understood that the golden calf is about 4 inches tall which made more sense when using Jewelry when making this golden calf.
I appreciate this thread for being here, allowing me to interact with you all so I can learn this; thank you 
However now I also realize from this thread, that its important to research further when seeing art., due to my confusion, when earlier, I saw artist exaggerate showing golden calf extremely huge., how come I couldn’t known this., how come I thought artist don’t exaggerate, but seek to show what writers are seeking to communicate? My personal Journey of learning, how people articulate, and this is my learning recently about artists., it puzzle me though who all are allowed to exaggerate; is it only artist who can?
So yes it is important for me to research further.
Now here that we see: this artist is showing through art, what all is being communicated in this art I see?
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/sionabenjamin3.jpg
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I so much want to say India but I can’t due to that name didn’t exist back when. All I can say is Indus Valley., So when you claim this solves many problems of Exodus., you mean how it’ll stop the fighting right? Can you expand more on that if that’s what you mean?
Actually any body can exaggerate, artist, writer, speaker, film maker. It is up to you to filter this, cross check other sources, and just use your plain common sense.
The religious conflicts today are rooted in the claims of exclusivity. Jews claim they are the only chosen people. Christians claim Jesus is the only saviour. Muslims claim mohammad was the final prophet. Hindus do not have such claim. So if we can show that all these religions emerge from this common philosophical and secular view of hinduism, then we may be able to get these religions to reconsider their ideas of exclusivity. There are many other degradations in Hinduism that we need not espouse. That may help the abrahamic religions to reject exclusivity.
God is one and he is real.
Objective evidence for the Christian God’s providential interventions into the lives of his children
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Not true
Christians acknowledge that Jews are God’s chosen people. No problem there.
If we believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father (whether or not a person knows it), why would we reject it? I’m pretty sure that nobody here wants to change their religion and become a Hindu.
btw, why don’t you ask Hindus to reject the caste system?
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//The religious conflicts today are rooted in the claims of exclusivity.// Not true//
When a person thinks that she is superior—it shows others as inferior—and (rightly) brings about a reaction against the person. This is the sources of conflict among the three Abrahamic religions each claiming exclusivity though somewhat differently. In my study this was the true cause of the Jewish Exile, Inquisitions, Holocaust and Jihad.
//Jews claim they are the only chosen people.//Christians acknowledge that Jews are God’s chosen people. No problem there.//
But Muslims and Hindus do not acknowledge this special status of the Jews. It is abhorrent to me that an all-loving God would place a lineage-based people above others irrespective of their conduct.
//That may help the abrahamic religions to reject exclusivity.// If we believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father (whether or not a person knows it), why would we reject it?//
The reason to reject the claim of “only” is that it is abhorrent and it was never made. This is a political presentation of Jesus that has been created by his followers for their political gains.
//I’m pretty sure that nobody here wants to change their religion and become a Hindu. btw, why don’t you ask Hindus to reject the caste system?//
Did I ever ask anyone to change to Hinduism? I do not want any proselytization. All religions must reform themselves and jettison their political interpretations in favour of spiritual interpretations. I do not hold a brief for the Hindus yet we must acknowledge that caste has been removed from the Indian Constitution and we are far ahead of some western countries like the US that are unable to remove racism.
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//The carryover from general Near Eastern religion into Judaism is not generally theological but ritual. For example, it’s assumed in the Pentateuch that everyone knows something about the general types of sacrifices, but here’s how to properly offer them to YHWH. “You’re already familiar with the basic idea of a portable tabernacle, but here are the details.” Those aspects of Judaism have largely been lost in practice with the destruction of the Second Temple.//
We will see many other parallels if we move beyond near-eastern to far eastern. The Tabernacle is almost identical with the fire sacrifice of the Hindus. The cherubim over the tabernacle are parallel to Hindu devtas. The golden calf is a mirror image of cow worship. The idea of One God Elohim and personal god Yahweh are same as One Brahman and many Brahmas of the Hindus.
//It has been calculated that just the right wind would have set up a seiche that would have parted one of the Bitter Lakes along the current route of the Suez Canal. Exodus does mention the use of wind to part the “sea”. (I read reference to the study in a rather unfortunate article that combined the attitude of “all I need to know about the Old Testament I learned from someone who had heard of Marcion” with “no god of the no gaps”.)//
I recall the wind speed required is about 115 miles per hour. It would be impossible to cross the lake in such high winds. Further, it does not explain why the Pharaoh would not simply circuit around the Bitter Lakes and confront the Hebrews as they come out on the other side. It also does no match with the Hebrews NOT taking the short route. The Bitter Lakes are located ON the shrt route.
//The geography of the exodus as recorded in the Pentateuch fits with Sinai. Again, the number of people involved, from geography, archaeology, and more cautious translation (‘clan’ rather than ‘thousand’, etc.) is tens of thousands, not millions.//
There is no volcano in Sinai. The area was under Egyptian suzerainty at that time. There is no archaeological evidence along the route. There are no bitter waters of Marah between Yam Suf I and Sinai. There is no Yam Suf II and Yam Suf III.
Instead of “misappropriation” it may solve many riddles of the Exodus. The crossing of the Reed Sea could be the Indus River. Bitter waters of Marah could be those near Kabul. Sinai could be Taftan. There is an ancient place named Paran near Isfahan. The second Yam Suf could be Shatt al-Arab.
Your studies are flawed. Hindus are involved in religious wars. And the Hindu caste system is hierarchical, with some castes superior to others. [moderated]
It doesn’t mean the Jews are superior. But in your caste system some castes are considered superior to others.
Jesus claimed that he was the only way to the Father. Do you want a reference?
You’re pushing Hinduism and criticizing our religion. That’s proselytization.
Who are you to preach at us?
The caste system is part the Hindu faith.
The caste system is racist and is part of the Hindu faith.
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Hindus do not kill innnocents like Floyd.
Jesus never said he was the only saviour.
Let us discuss exodus, please, instead of going in tangents. Peace and cheers.
The police killed Floyd. It wasn’t religiously motivated.
“Jesus said to him, ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.’” John 14:6.
Fine by me. You are the one who brought most of this other stuff up.
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Thanks for the mellow response. So police killing innocent blacks is not racism, but Brahmins not drinking water from shudra (if that be the case) is discrimination? Oh. Come on.
I will respond to John if you start a new string.
Thx.