Seven anti-vax doctors attend an anti-vax conference and…

Seven Doctors Test Positive Within Days After Attending Anti-Vaccine Summit

What a surprise (not). What are these people thinking?

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Yeah but chances are, they’ll all be fine, just a sniffle. Or Trump will part with his secret stash of Regeneron monoclonal antibodies.
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“ “I think they had gotten it from New York or Michigan or wherever they were from,” he told the Beast. “It was really the people who flew in from other places.”

Because everyone knows there is no Covid in Florida.

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I thought this sounded like the first line in a joke, so I opened the thread expecting a punch line…

I got a punch line even if it is no joke.

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This is why the florida men memes will never run out of material lol.

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Right?
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I’m dinking around here the way librarians do, looking for corroborating sources that come from different reporters, witnesses, etc. I’m not entirely satisfied. However, I did find these links from John T. Littell’s Facebook page:

I’m not recommending anyone watch the video to LEARN anything about covid and treatments, etc. Maybe learn about approaches anti-vax folks are using, and the types of claims they make. At least I found evidence that the conference took place.

Oi.

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Don’t you have access to academic databases since you are a librarian? Anyway, here’s an internet article from SorryAntiVaxxers from one of the doctors who was there and is now sick with covid:

Dr. Bruce Boros MD, 71, Key West, FL. Cardiologist, anti-vaxxer, “seriously ill” with COVID.

Good grief.

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Yeah…. I am at home with my family on a “vacation” weekend and didn’t bring all my datases with me from work, and don’t always have the time and attention for serious research, thus “dinking around.” I hope that’s ok.
Just looked at your article link, and it has the same problem all the others have had that I have found. It goes back to the same article they all do from the Daily Beast. While this proves or disproves nothing, I would be glad to have other “witnesses” to strengthen the case. It’s what I expect from people who send me pseudoscience, and it frustrates me, when I can’t live up to my own standards.

As far as these “doctors” are concerned, well, I’ll hold my tongue, except to say “ironic.”

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Bring databases home from work? What is that?

I will ask my librarians about this, if you like.

This is an update from Spectrum Health, where I work. I am at a clinic associated with a satellite hospital about an hour out from the main campus, but there are people in their 20s and 30s hospitalized, as well as those who are older. I expect that it will get worse Nationwide in the next month, particularly with Thanksgiving, but hopefully not

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“There have been 171 total COVID-related deaths across the district with over 20% of those occurring after September 1, 2021.”

I would be willing to not have a heart attack and need an ICU bed.

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There is a website for The Florida Covid Summit that I mentioned, and there are even videos of speakers.

And check out America’s Frontline Doctors a group of antivax doctors who will sell you ivermectin online. There is also American Frontline Nurses with the same philosophy. How do these people keep their licenses?

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Political influence. There are all sorts of questionable treatments allowed when the politicians are influenced to protect them.

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I’m not sure what happens. You’re probably right, but it takes an act of God to put a doctor’s license under scrutiny by the board. You have to find a patient willing to open their chart to the board, criticize the doctor, and dedicate time, based on their experience. I am not sure of all the details, but you find that with doctors who hurt their patients with negligence by treating with chelation therapy, vitamins, “Lyme literate” antibiotics for years for those with negative tests, etc; Mercola may be an example, but my partners and I have run into this in years before Covid, too. It’s difficult.
I remember listening to a lecture advising those of us who practice orthodox medicine with minimizing opioids, to confront providers who prescribe inappropriately (almost in a Pauline way–first in person, then in public, if they refuse to listen).
It is difficult to do that. We see that in churches, too–we don’t want to be those who criticize our friends with a mote and beam analogy, too. However, this is a time when we are all learning to talk kindly and humbly to those who really need gentle and firm redirection, keeping in mind how to be open about our own faults. Thanks.

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It is tough. I have a family member who was in the state legislature, and it was interesting to hear of the lobbyists coming by to defend quackery. It is all about money. On the medical board side, if someone hires a good lawyer and moves the action to the court system, it is then delayed, strains the resources of the board to pursue, and ultimately the decision is made by a lay jury or elected judge rather than a professional panel with understanding of the issues. Many do get disciplined ,but usually for moral issues (drugs, alcohol, sex) rather than treatment issues.

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That’s good to know. I didn’t know that information. Thanks.

I did not know that there was that much political pressure, either. After reading Offit’s “Do You Believe In Magic,” recommended by my partner, I learned a bit more of how much power the herbal and nutraceutical lobby has. I almost feel like a conspiracy theorist, when reading that!.

It’s hard, in this era of needing certainty, not to say “I think,” rather than “I know,” and also to say, above all, “I don’t know. I’ll look up CDC or contact a specialist. Let me know if you don’t hear from me in a week;” or, “I’ll refer you.”

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Meanwhile, in Italy, a man tried to get a vaccination in a fake rubber foam arm. But it didn’t fool the nurse, Filippa Bua.

According to the NY Times,

The man — whose identity was not disclosed for privacy reasons — wore a thick theater corset covered in rubber foam, to which two foam arms were attached, according to Ms. Bua. She added that it was “quite well made.” His goal, she said, was to obtain a vaccination certificate, enabling him to go to work without actually getting the shot.

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I have more on the story:

Italian dentist presents fake arm for vaccine to get Covid pass

The guy was a dentist, believe it or not! He was apparently willing to endanger his patients. I can’t even…

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