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No need to apologize, my intent was not to tweek anyone.
I am just repeating what the Bible says the Biblical God wants. Condensing and paralleling and summarizing the main theme. If you have any specific questions as to what I claim I found God to say in the Bible, feel free to make a new thread and address it there.
My intent is not to jab at you so I again apologize for it being interpreted as such. It is just such a real thing or truth in my life, I can’t explain it. My belief requires some givens.
- You believe that God did create the universe and us, so He knows what He designed us for.
- He designed us for Him, and that is what completes us, and without Him, we are incomplete.
I was not intending to speak this as a fact, rather my beliefs. But I genuinely believe it to the core of my being. But it makes logical senses to me to. If there was no God to create us, and it was just random adaptations, life seems so meaningless and pointless to me. I need to take care of myself, because there is no one who cares for me no matter what. I am no longer an individual blessed with my health and intelligence and skills, who I can use to help others in thanks. It’s is luck of my genes, and all thanks to my efforts. But what is the point of life or the meaning of life? I am some what curious, but its also sad to me, though I am not intending pity.
If you are honest with yourself and find fulfillment in life, and not just live distraction by distractions afraid to face yourself and be honest, then you don’t need God. I do believe that everyone needs God and they are lying to themselves if they say they don’t, but not trying to jab or berate, it is just that much of a truth to me.
You shouldn’t be offended at how I live though even if that means how I believe others are designed to live. I am not forcing my opinions or beliefs on you, and I definitely don’t think we should legislate based off of our religious beliefs. I don’t think any less of you. I just know who I was without God and and how complete and peaceful and meaningful life is with God. His glorious creations are awe inspiring, His love is so powerful, more powerful than anything. Sorry, I know I just keep repeating myself and it probably sounds like nonsense to you.
I guess my words are more for an Gnostic who is seeking truth rather than an Atheist who is not and believes they have it as far as seek and you will find. To the Atheist I would say if they ever have an emptiness they find within themselves, that God can fill it. But if you have no emptiness, than there is no need for you to have God.
It basically comes down to pride. Do I think I am (or want to be) in control of my life, or do I want God to be in control of my life. I want God to be in control of my life, as I believe He knows what is best, as I believe He created us, so obviously knows what is best for us. That is all salvation/conversion is. You want God to me ruler/Lord of your life, and can’t due to our sin, but through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus, you can now ask God to be Lord/King/Ruler of your life.
All I meant by that is one of the main goals in life isn’t to convert, that is the ends, my purpose is the means. In the means, I am as Paul says a Jew to the Jews. I might have said it in a different thread, but I am on here to be a biologos to the biologos.
Continuing the discussion from Cain's wife and ofther humans:
That is why I joined this forum. Jew for the Jews a biologos, for the biologos…1 cor 9:20.
God has given me a real interests in these things, so as to participate in dialogue and make relationships with. If I just came on here and shared the gospel…as good as it is, would not resonate with many. This is why Jesus always related to those and healed people and ate with people first, and THEN, shared the gospel with them. We were created to be a lovimg people, that make relations with others and relationship with God. I enjoy all the education from others, I am learning a lot, I still have my own theory on other things, but that is just how I relate ( genuine interest thoug, not false relations or interests), and share the love of God to all.
If God uses me or my words or insights to help an active member or a casual internet browser and uses my words to reveal Him to them, amen. If not, I still live my life for the means, not the ends. God is in charge of the results/ends, it’s my job to attempt to honor Him and give Him glory with my means/present actions. I feel to often people want to control the ends, and (possibly unintentionally) make themselves or their logic a god, thinking they can and should convert people and live by the ends.
That is the purpose for the ‘books’ as you say, I’ve written, the means, the every day life. That I can glorify God through me using the girts He blessed me with to glorify Him directly (in praise), or to glorify Him in loving others. I have some theories on certain Genesis accounts, and it is neat to learn and I have already adapted my thoughts and had my mind changed and learned things from joining this forum, but this is all just a part of life, the extremely minute details. My core beliefs and the reason for our lives is not something that I really think needs debated by Christians on here, as we pretty much all agree on the core important things.
But lack of knowledge is ignorance, not delusion. I am to love the Lord with all my mind, which requires me to learn and explore and as iron sharpens iron, utilize my gifts and those He brings in my life to better understand and know Him. I agree with the scientific method and that is why the big bang and evolution is a very logical route to believe and that the Genesis accounts weren’t quote as literal as the church often teaches.
I believe science strengthens faith. When science says something that alters my previous beliefs, it allow me to re-read and understand God and the Bible more clearly and see the majesty of how God designed this world and how amazing of a Designer He was. Learning that the moon moves the tides so the water doesn’t go stagnant and kill everyone. Learning that water is the only element that expands before it freezes which in turn helps it float, which in turn helps it insulate the water below it so it doesn’t become a thick chuck of ice killing and freezing every thing it. The more complex I learn evolution is and the vastness of our universe, the more glory I see go to the Creator/Engineer/Designer.
I do not believe there is a single thing out there that will ever prove God, nor disprove Him. But anything that does get discovered, just amplifies my faith in God. Every time.
Good point
You must have misunderstood me, this is what I thought I was saying? Did I saw he knows everything?
Very good point, I never thought of that before.