Sorry for the unclear explanation. It would have been more clear if I said. Flight was THOUGHT to be impossible for how many… The point being, something thought to be impossible now, doesn’t make it impossible.
I don’t understand what you don’t understand there. Can you elaborate?
I can’t make sense of that either. Probably a combination between auto correct and missed word. Humans make mistakes in “speaking” even in textual form. But what I meant to say was…
Mormons and Islam doesn’t have the same loving God throughout their scriptures. They have the same beginning “God”, they claim to believe the genesis account up to the split of Abrams kids (Isaac and Ishmael). And Mormon’s claim to believe in the Bible. But both supplement or over write the Bible with newer revelation from a prophet who changes the original message. Christians have God Himself coming to earth, to demonstrate the Old Testament, and fulfill it and explains the original meaning behind it, and amplifies if, not change it.
This is the reason I @Mervin_Bitikofer said what he said and why I keep emphasizing as a belief and not fact.
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What else would the subjects of our beliefs be if not facts?
I don’t think arrogance or arrogant is the correct word, or if you are using it correctly, then you are greatly misinterpreting what I am saying.
Definition of arrogant
1 :exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one’s own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner an arrogant official
2 :showing an offensive attitude of superiority :proceeding from or characterized by arrogance an arrogant reply
My own worth or importance is no better than yours, nor am I superior to you or anyone in any way.
If there is one thing that you will see me boast about, it is in the love of God for everyone.
If you are on a train track and a train is coming toward you, and I offer to help, it you perceive that I am in the train tracks too. You are not going to care what I say, no matter how educated or eloquent I am speaking it. You want to see that I am first off the track and know of a way to get off before you would even begin to listen to me. Or even worse if you don’t see a train coming, or even see that you are on train tracks.
Imagine attempting to explain to the one on the tracks with a train coming at them with out insulting them when they act as if there is no train coming and they aren’t even on tracks. Like a crazy flat earther trying to argue to any one of intelligence that the earth is flat. Convincing can’t be done without offending, it just can’t. You can share you beliefs if asked. That is why we are to have an explanation ready for when asked, but it isn’t our job to convince or convert anyone.
That is all I meant by saying “Christianity is for those who want God”. As those who see a void without the One that created them having a loving purpose for them and to know them.
Having that belief, that we are all created by a Being who knows what is best for us since He designed us, and knowing (relationship) Him is the only thing that completes that void inside of all of us. IF one has that belief, then using logic, anyone who doesn’t feel that void, is either distracting/avoiding/numbing themselves to this fact(belief) or has realized this void and is lying to themselves that they have this void.
In honoring logic, I can’t think different, it is illogical to not think those two possibilities…if one has the beliefs I have.
BUT, that has not a single bearing on how I treat someone who doesn’t share my beliefs.
We live in such a sensitive society that doesn’t allow or respect one to have their own beliefs. How one can get offended by someone’s beliefs is hard to comprehend.
It’s different if ones beliefs is that blacks are inferior people, that is something to be offended at, especially if there is action behind those beliefs. But if one believes (a Muslim believes that I am going to hell because I don’t honor Mohammad) something that doesn’t make n any way change the way they treat me, how is that offensive? Can can that piss one off or create a divide? Actions should divide, not beliefs.
But back to the train tracks, that is why we aren’t supposed to convince others to God, rather to live our lives, showing God to others. When they see God in us, they will inquire us about Him, and that is why we are supposed to have an explanation what we believe, why we believe what we believe and to live what we believe and say we believe.
I do believe God is in control, and often is found when people hit rock bottom and have no where else to turn…but God, who is always there for you. Though I don’t wish for you to hit rock bottom. If you are not lying to yourself and you don’t want to acknowledge God now, I pray there is a time in your life that you do find Him. But I have nothing but love for you brother, my apologies for your perception of my insulting you or pissing you off, that was not at all my intent.
I guess if it is someone’s life-goal/religion for everyone to believe what they believe, I guess I can understand one getting pissed off when someone disagrees with them, even to the point of aggression or violence towards them. But God created us and knows how we work. This is probably why there isn’t a single scripture instructing us that everyone is supposed to believe what we believe, because we are flawed, and that would result in anger and hate, which is not from God. Rather God says, trust Me with the end result, you just live for the now and love Me and others, here are some laws and commandment to expand on how to love Me and others because I know the word “love” can also be interpreted for hate too unfortunately.
Before the Big Bang was discovered, the angered upon theory is that the universe always was. It was the Hebrews, who spoke that the universe had a beginning, that it went from nothing to universe 2000 years ago, as was revealed to them by God. It took scientist up until about 50 years ago to learn this.
“For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”
― Robert Jastrow, God and the Astronomers