Humor in Science and Theology

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Not exactly as I remember it, but it has been a while. I do have a copy of Siddhartha Mukherjee’s The Song of the Cell I need to read someday.

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On the location of Husband and Wife: Why does there have to be one above the other? Who in his or her right mind cannot understand the concept that love means cooperation, not domineering?

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Because you get more traction that way than you do when side-to-side.

This is way too close to home as a feminist in a complementarian church. People really see these as the two, and only two, options. And Lord help those poor, limping singles [/sarcasm].

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I would insist that you get more love when either both treat it as side by side, or both put the other first. If by traction you mean some one person has control, then the model is not one I wish to accept for my own use.

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Actually that’s reasonably profound: that I have thoughts is sufficient evidence for me to conclude that there is an “I” who is having those thoughts, but I cannot know if others exist.

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One of my sons is contemplating a philosophy major when he graduates from school–I want to encourage him, but…

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My understanding is that it might be a common pre-law degree? Is your son interested in law school at all? So the bachelor’s philosophy degree may function more as a prelude to other advanced degrees, without which there may be very limited employment options indeed. But on the other hand (at least this used to be true - don’t know how true it still is now) … there are a lot of employment options that open up for anyone with any kind of four year degree that might not be open for just a high school graduate. The rationale being … that most university degrees - even of all the so-called more technically focused variety really don’t prepare a student for any specific job anyway, and they’re still going to need to be trained into whatever specific job they end up taking. So it’s more a case of an employer knowing that a prospective employee can persevere and learn what they need to successfully navigate through whatever they face. So degrees aren’t so much a “I’ve learned it” signifier as they are an “I’ve proven I can learn” (any maybe just as importantly - ‘I can work hard’) indicator.

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That is very good! Thank you. I remember a book we had to read in undergrad, called, “How to Read a Book”–I think that’s the same theme–how to learn.

He is pretty good at learning! I have just read your post to my boys, and they appreciate it, too.

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Knowing that you’re giving me a bigger audience there - then let me hastily add all the necessary nuance and caveats. There are obvious limits to that advice of course! One won’t be netting an engineering or medical doctor job (I guess I don’t have to tell you that!) without the requisite degree for those jobs. But other job options (and advancement options) should be more available. They may still be starting at some entry-level anyway, right alongside less educated peers, which may or can feel a little demoralizing to some. But as long as they can exhibit the same grit and work ethic as their peers, the degree will likely make a difference, at least in some career fields to distinguish them from their peers.

I do have to grit my teeth a little while talking like this, though, after having just finished “Fully Alive” by Elizabeth Oldfield (great and recommended read by the way!) Because she has a lot to say about all our pride and status / class / (informal caste) systems that we maintain with each other. And how that can get in the way of our connection with others. But … that book is probably more for us older ones to heed rather than thinking that younger, and rightly career-minded people need agonize over. They have enough worries just finding God’s leading and working hard to sort all their many (or few) options out. We more-or-less career-settled folks are the ones who can use the pokes and reminders from books like that - though I dare say, it will be a rare young person that is already privy to such considerations even while they are still in their school years.

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Thank you! Now I think of it, one of my nicest partners (till he had to move recently) had a philosphy major; we were in med school and residency together, too. Another classmate’s major was in literature. I suspect there is a benefit to a broad based education like that!

It is often advertised that way by the universities. In my undergrad program, there were some who were following it up with a masters degree in political science.

Look up famous people with philosophy degrees. I did that the other day with my wife, who was once a lawyer, as she hates philosophy.

One thing I appreciate about studying philosophy… never actually got the degree. Other courses were required. I thought since I did the associates degree, all I needed was to complete the department requirements for the undergrad. But that wasn’t the case. I completed the program for the department and felt that was enough at the time as it wasn’t part of my career path… so one thing I took away and greatly appreciate is a basic grasp for the history of philosophy as it plays such a significant role in the course of human history.

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By ‘traction’, I meant ‘traction’. The ability to provide thrust without slippage.

There’s no need to look for possible euphemisms, analogies or hidden meanings when text makes perfect sense when read straightforwardly.

Okay, okay - that humor was already good the first time around. No need to elaborate or dwell on it - let’s try to keep things in a family way around here. So to speak. :grin:

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I meme, therefore I am???

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Woo hoo! So true. :rofl: :joy: :upside_down_face:

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Not if you sincerely meme well.

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