I find it even more implausible (and rather odious) that God would plan on his prized creation, people, suffering for 6,000 years (and counting) before living with them in peace and harmony.
That’s exactly what God let them do. He’d rather they hadn’t (thus avoiding the above mentioned 6,000+ years of suffering), but free will is free will.
This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time… 2 Timothy 1:9
“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” Matthew 25:34
And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain. Revelation 13:8
I disagree. Sorry, but I can’t side with you and Jerry in thinking that God intended for mankind to suffer for 6,000 years, and counting, before He could dwell with them.
I thing Genesis 1:1-2:4 is quite clear. God intended on dwelling with man when He first put him in His garden. That was His plan “A.” He did not make Adam sin and blow that plan to pieces. That was Adam’s choice, not God’s.
I guess it’s just hard to accept that God would make free will individuals that could go against His plans, thereby thwarting said plans, but that’s the chance He took when He gave them free will. Lot’s of robots are being manufactured these days, robots that have no choice but to obey their programming. God’s just not like that though. Giving them free will was the hallmark of His love towards them.
…scripture, which clearly says God’s plan was a two-creation one from before the first started. It was destined to futility from the beginning, by design.
Maybe I wasn’t clear, but I never meant to appear hesitant. The Bible does not talk about QM, the big bang, or the speed of light.
While God is certainly responsible for those things, He didn’t bring them up to an Ancient Near East which would have had no idea what He was talking about. Those things are just irrelevant to what God wanted to communicate in the scriptures.
All those say is that God had plan “B” in mind from the beginning. It in no way suggests God would not have wanted Adam to succeed. Had that plan succeeded He would not have had to put plan “B” into play.
In fact, had Adam obeyed, none of those verses would have had to be communicated.
Oh, I guess you haven’t been around here all that long. Young earth creation/ism/ist, believing the earth is only 6-10ka old and that Noah’s flood was global.