Good and Evil, Towb and Ra

[rrobs (Rich)]

@Dale

As the shame and ignominy of the cross did not deter him (let alone its pain!) and because of the sure hope and confidence3 we can have in Jesus, neither should we be deterred by what we are given to endure.

Very true. We should not be deterred. After all. we are more than conquerors (Rom 8:37).

But the discussion is about who causes suffering, God or the devil? It would seem strange indeed that God would torture us just because He made us able to overcome only to torture us again so we could overcome again and on and on until we die.