One key principle that seems to come up is the innability for humanity to measure and determine the “one way speed of light”.
now after reading Daniel 8 and 9 yesterday whilst on a flight from Sydmey to Melbourne, i am lf the opinion that time is certainly a restriction if you like for angels and therefore all created beings/things (because the “angel Gabriel took flight from heaven to come to talk with daniel, arriving about the time of evening prayers/meal“whatever it was )
All of that gave me an idea for another related discussion…hence this question
Rather than insert my full view off the bat (even though im sure many of you can preempt my views on this topic, I will hint at one starting point (for me at least) in answer to this question…”In the beginning God”
so with the above thought that came to my mind for this question…i post below the Google AI response to the question and perhaps we as a forum might critique the response and discuss our individual ideas
(I know these things turn into YEC debates, im hoping we can largely avoid that but im honestly not sure…i havent intended to preload this question)
I view science as an activity done by humans with distinctive steps such as gathering background information, forming a hypothesis, designing an experiment, gathering data, analyzing data, and forming conclusions. This all takes time, not to mention humans are beings dependent on the passage of time. So I would say that no science could be done without time.
You mentioned Gabriel and traveling speed. I live in in the NY area and this video occurrence was noteworthy to me. Check out this video, “ufo carteret” UFO's seen in Carteret New Jersey
There are other UTube videos of this occurrence of July 14-15, 2001 in Cateret NJ.
This occured in July 2001 before the WTC Event, I think these are possibly Angels. The Burning Bush of Moses were balls of fire.
Science only exists because of the space-time mathematical structure of the universe.
So much of our existence depends on time that the dependence of science upon time seems an underwhelming revelation. But the above assertion is saying a bit more than this – the dependence of science upon time as a measurable quantity.
“But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.” - 2 Peter 3:8
The Genesis creation account has troubled many Christians who struggle to reconcile seven literal days with scientific evidence for an ancient universe. But what if the problem isn’t with Scripture, it’s with our understanding of time itself? What if time isn’t duration but a the measurement of how deeply the Logos weaves patterns into reality. When Genesis speaks of “days,” it’s describing phases, not 24-hour periods. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” (Isaiah 55:8-9)
God operates where infinite complexity can unfold in what appears to us as sequential “days.” Each creation “day” represents a new level where the Logos (light) achieves greater coherence and complexity. Day 1 establishes the fundamental nature of light itself. Days 2-3 structures space and matter. Days 4-6 the Logos creates complex patterns—stars, life, consciousness, each requiring deeper levels of coherent organization. The “rest” of Day 7 isn’t cessation, but the achievement of perfect coherence where nature becomes self-sustaining. IMO, this framework resolves the apparent contradiction between Genesis and geology. Millions of years of geological time represent the unfolding of threading patterns established in the creation “days.” What appears to us as vast ages is simply the working out of coherence patterns into reality during those foundational phases. “He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end.” (Ecclesiastes 3:11)
As I teach my physics students, time (t) is most often defined onto the x-axis, but that’s just how us humans have developed our understanding. It’s not an actual axis. The fossil record, radiometric dating, and cosmic observations all reflect the genuine passage of time, but they’re measuring the expression of patterns. Understanding time as tau (τ) also illuminates prophecy and God’s eternal perspective. When Scripture speaks of God knowing “the end from the beginning” (Isaiah 46:10), it’s because He operates where all temporal patterns are simultaneously present. “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart.” (Jeremiah 1:5) The creation “days” weren’t about God needing time to work. They represent the logical sequence required to establish a coherent, self-sustaining universe where His love could be expressed through relationship with conscious beings.
So, no, we can’t really measure effectively without the construct we call (t). Simple as that. But from God’s perspective, he’s beyond time, and really, so is His creation.
