Sorry about confusing that. Yes, I believe if we are able to measure it to be 4.5 bill, than it is.
Evolution…a vague word…Absolutely believe in what some refer to as micro-evolution, but I prefer to call it adaptation. A dog species can become a pit bull or a collie. Or skin turns darker due to sun exposure ect. But I don’t really believe that a fish could become a money. Adaptation within it’s kind.
I agree, He is not, and yes, describing Him as one would not glorify Him. Where we are at a disconnect, is that you believe my theory to be deception, I do not. Like many things in the Bible, it is rarely about the action, it is more about the heart. I don’t think God is intending to deceive anyone. He just created some planets and stars, made some animals, enjoyed watching them do their thing, then said, We need man to rule and steward the animals and plants, Let’s create man. No deception at all.
I am not sure why you assume that? I don’t disdain measurements, or science, I love it and think it reveals God’s brilliance and glory even more. I think you disdain relativity. If you are sitting still relative to the earth, your velocity would be 0 mph, that is a speed measurement. If you are sitting still, relative to the sun, your velocity is 23,000mph, that is a speed measurement. Both measurements are correct, I don’t disdain either, I respect both.
Exactly what I am saying, or trying to say. And exactly that we are not God, much like a kid is not a parent. Try to explain quantum physics or linear algebra to a 3 year old… I am not saying without a doubt I am correct and know some truth. I am more saying this is my theory and what I believe and what makes sense to me. I am also saying that just because you can’t understand why God didn’t something or assign human logic to something, doesn’t make Him deceptive.
Exactly. Though I have heard some say that this is literal and that the earth was created in 6000 years…I am not in that camp. That just sounds like a way of explaining that God is outside of time, like when we are to forgive 70 X 7 times. I don’t think we are to count, rather we are to forgive a lot. I don’t think the 1 day =1000 years, I think God is outside of time and it is somewhat incomprehensible for us, and that is one example that God can make 1=1000 days…or 13.7 billion years.
I have a problem with assigning any fixed duration of time to God as well, nor do I believe I did. I said God is outside of time, eternal, Alpha and Omega. However, He can assign time to us. If He wanted us to think the universe was created in 1 day, I could have actually been 1 day. If he wanted time to be fairly constant after creation so that it measures to be 13.7 billion years, He could do that too.
I don’t think I am assigning a time to God, I am saying I think He assigned a time to us.
What does 1 day mean? It’s 1 rotation of the earth. So what about before the Earth was here to rotate? Could a ‘day’ still have occurred? Before the creation of Earth, there was light created on the 1st day. How could a day have been possible you say, there was no way to measure a day, the Earth didn’t exist yet to rotate. How could a year have occurred before galaxy, we measure a year to be one revolution around the sun? We also have quartz or atomic clocks, that measure vibrating between energy states. Could one measure a second before quartz cesium came to be?
My point is that these are all human measurements we humans use. Time still ticked before the Earth was. Maybe that is why God assigned a day to His creations, because there was no measurement of time back then. It took God (who is outside of time) either 1 second, or 100 trillion years to create the universe. He is outside of time, so whatever time He assigns, is what it is. Which I think you would agree with, if Jesus said this. You argument is that you don’t believe the writings are literal.
Which brings me to another interesting point. 7 is a number of completeness, it is used many times throughout the Bible, some times even in visions as a symbol of completeness. That is another reason I believe it took 7 days, He wanted it to be complete, and so He assigned 7 days to it. Joshua marched around Jericho 7 days, they blew 7 trumpets, it is used both literally and symbolically. The mark of the beast is 666, sixes repeating, no matter how many places you go, 6 will never be a 7.
I think you are getting too wrapped around the axel of tree rings. That was an analogy to try to explain how things are measured. Is there a way to measure/age a ringless tree? Same theory applies. TIme happened, warp speed.
Thank you for saying that so I didn’t have to repeat myself to @T_aquaticus. I’m sure everyone is thanking you saving them from my long winded explanation attempts.