Are these the false prophets God warned us about?

[Bill_II]

@Burrawang

I think this article is relevant to all,

The article actually answers the question of the source of the hostility.

Another factor that often raises the ire of old-earth Christians is that biblical creationists often insist (correctly, in our view) that this issue directly impacts the integrity of the Gospel.

And by implication the YEC actually question the salvation of anyone who disagrees.

@Burrawang

That’s a serious accusation about their doctrinal stance that could potentially affect their eternal destiny (it doesn’t have to, but it can)!

And then they double down on their accusation. In general I found the tone of the entire article to be rather hostile.

[mitchellmckain (Scientist and Christian)]

Why does your cult demand that scientists accept your lies about the Bible and the universe in order to be a Christian? Why have you changed Christianity into an anti-science cult?

Becoming a liar for Jesus is not to serve Jesus at all. The father of lies is the devil not Jesus.

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Matthew 23:15 you traverse sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.

There is no support for lies in the Bible or the words of Jesus.

The creationists are definitely among the false prophets God warned against. All their prophecies have proven false and so they have to tell more and more lies in order to serve the devil they worship.

[graft2vine (Ethan)]

@Burrawang

I only have only a few minutes available now,

Perhaps when you have more time you could respond here and here

@Burrawang

Why would Christians be hostile to biblical creation?

Just in this title, calling YEC “biblical creation”, is a bit hostile in precluding other Bible believing OEC, progressive or evolutionary creationists.

[jammycakes (James McKay)]

@Burrawang

I think this article is relevant to all, that is, both those that believe in ‘Deep Time’ and ‘Evolution’, and those that believe in ‘Biblical Creation’.

First of all, nobody here is rejecting Biblical creation. We are rejecting young earth creation. Young earth creation is not Biblical; it is a cartoon caricature of Biblical with a thick layer of science fiction slathered on top of it.

Secondly, nobody here is rejecting young earth creation because it is creation. We are rejecting it because it is blatantly dishonest, because it is hostile to science, because it demands that we reject the evidence of our eyes and ears as its final, most essential command, because it stirs up controversy among Christians about questions that are totally uncontroversial and completely settled everywhere else, and because in its more extreme forms (as here), it says that we must believe in something other than Jesus in order to be saved. We are rejecting it because it is a cult.

I know you will object to being told that it is dishonest, but I’ve said it before and I will say it again: honesty has rules, and if you do not want to be told that you’re being dishonest, you need to stick to the rules. And young earthism does not stick to the rules.