No. They spend their days, evenings, and weekends doing nothing more than arguing about topics they say no one understands— except them of course.
Really? How about explaining what this statement of yours means.
Oh, I disagree.
There is either energy, or atoms which came about from nothing, and experienced some form of overload, resulting in a big bang style event, resulting in the existence of the cosmos. As no one is able to explain where those originate from, and how they happen to interact, resulting in all matter, and subsequent life, I see no reason to take it seriously.
On the otherhand, an highly intelligent Creator, who’s experience and expertise make him uniquely qualified to make everything there is— there’s plenty of reason to take it seriously.
Intelligence. Art, reason, science, principles governing laws (in all the academic, and practical disciplines we presently know to date), the concept of beauty, wisdom, and understanding.
Ever look at any of the human’s physiological components?
As stated above, I am a stage 4 metastatic melanoma survivor. I lived with a cancer for 10 years, that typically kills within 1-2 years. Undiagnosed, untreated… I was walking around, living life, and had stage 1, stage 2, and stage 3 metastatic melanoma dwelling in my body. A few weeks ago I met a young man who’s friend had died 2 weeks after diagnosis. Melanoma, like pancreatic cancer kills fast.
Due to the path my surgeon took with my first surgery in July 1997, I lost all my lymph nodes. I really didn’t know much about the lymph system, except that it was a main element of the immune system for the human body. Since then… I’ve learned a lot about the lymph system. Mostly because my health, and keeping my left leg depended on me following doctor’s instructions. For me, I’m the kind of guy who follows instructions better when I understand the why behind those instructions. Thankfully, there are two textbooks dealing with this topic of the lymphatics.
You know what I learned— it’s the second part of the circulatory system.
Without which, humans cannot live. Like the main part of the circulatory system— veins, artieries, capillaries, etc…, the lymph system picks up proteins, and fluids which “leak” out of the capillaries, and through a series of pick-up extractors, chambered vessels, nodules, which have filtering, manufacturing, and production stations, to filter out toxins, and other “bad stuff” which gets into our blood, it finally returns the cleansed fluids/proteins back to the vena cava, at the top of the heart, and starts all over again.
I have to ask… at what point does the lymph system evolve? Before, or after the first several million hominids die off because they did not have a working immune system?
There are several body parts on the human which required to be in fully-functioning mode for them to operate. Did God just walk away, and only show up at certain points in our development? I.e., theistic evolution, or deistic evolution?
That doesn’t read like the God which I’m familiar with, from the bible, Jesus, and my own life’s experiences.
As I read the bible, as I’ve experienced life… YHVH was directly involved, at every step of the way, and did a hands on creation.
When people claim complexity of life is why they believe in evolution, I see— I’ve never actually looked really closely at the critters, animals, etc… which exist, as far as anatomy, physiology, and the complexity of their organisms. But, just looking across at how many different critters there are, it seems reasonable to say that they evolved.
I.e., I literally read ignorance in their claims.
Even Darwin said he could not explain the human eye. I have several oncology doctors who can’t even understand the lymphatic system enough to treat me when problems arise.
I have to travel to a handful of locations around the nation, or Europe where specialists, who have studied it can help, but even they’re limited in scope, due to the complexity of the system. And these are people who’ve spent decades, studying it.
Look, I get that you really believe in theistic evolution. I don’t. I don’t see evidence for it, and I sure can’t identify it in the bible, and I’ve been reading if for over 40 years now. You’re more than welcome to believe that YHVH is not who he says he is. You’re more than welcome to ignore who he said he actually is.
As I read the 10 commandments, that’s known as idolatry. Thankfully, God said he will cleanse his people of their idols, and false beliefs. Ezekiel 36:25, and Jeremiah 1:10.
Here’s what I will say, and it’s what I’ve been doing for a long time now-- decide who you’re going to believe.
1- yourself, and your finite human intellect’s capacity to wrap your mind around what you are faced with.
2- the claims of people with whom you have little to no familiarity. Who are also highly limited in knowledge, awareness, and understanding.
3- The Infinite, incomprehensibly humongous, and intelligent, YHVH, creator of the cosmos.
Only one of those actually has a level of knowledge, and understanding which is unlimited.
After 30 years, I came to the realization that I too had to make that choice. I finally realized that I’m not God, never will be, don’t have even 1E-10000000000000000th of the level of understanding, and awareness he has.
So, I chose… actually chose to believe him, over my fellow man, over myself, and whatever other outside influences there may be. And it’s not because I haven’t attended college, or don’t know really intelligent people. I simply realized that I can either trust a finite perspective, or an infinite perspective.
I chose the infinite perspective.
I encourage you to both consider, and try it. I"m confident you’ll be as blown away by His capacity to reach, and teach us as I have been, and continue to be.
Moreover, being a cancer survivor, I’ve found that living with cancer-- as opposed to dying from cancer— requires far more recognition of my mortality, of my intellectual, and the intellects of my doctors— who’ve spent 17 years telling me they have no idea why I’m still alive (I.e., men and women who’ve assiduously studied medical science are clueless as to why someone who has advanced stage 4 metastatic cancer, which normally kills within a year or two, is still alive, after now 30 years of living with it), and to keep doing what I’m doing… which is just learning to follow Jesus.