Why couldn't God have made the universe instantaneously?

He could have but He didn’t.

Our universe seems very artificial, it really feels like we are living inside a gigantic Matrix (Keanu Reeves’) or a gigantic GTA world.

The smallest pixel is the Planck Length, the highest possible speed is the speed of light. And, our universe is finite.

Yes: He wants to become consistent with the Law of Nature that He had set in the beginning of creation.

But, not for a Consistent one.

And, that’s why He gave us Mathematics and Science instead of revealing all on His own.

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He kinda did. It’s called the ‘big bang’. YECs have pretty explicitly implied that YECism is better because it makes God more powerful to have done it in six 24-hour days instead of 13.8 Ga. If that is so, then why didn’t he do it instantaneously instead of dragging it out over six 24-hour days?! If God is omnipotent, then God is omnipotent no matter how he chose to do it. :roll_eyes:

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In what way does nature feel, look artificial to you? The fact that it is ordered, ruled by laws? None of which require meaning. None of those deterministic facts you list.

There is no beginning of creations, no creation of beginnings. There is eternal instantiation of the prevenient laws of phusikos, physics, nature. If God is beneath that, He has no choice.

Mathematics and science preveniently inhere to nature that, if anything, He humbly instantiates.

In these ways:

The fact that the universe is most likely finite than infinite and there is a limit of the speed of the Causality. It looks like we are just a character in the GTA or Duke Nukem 3D game trying to push the bound but it is set there.
The fact that Mathematics is there already and it applies not only to another Universe but also in the realm upon which this Universe is built and in the virtual realms that we build.
1 + 1 = 2 even in GTA and Duke Nukem 3D. We can’t invent different mathematics in these virtual worlds. And, if we imagine that this reality is not the base reality, the Math that we use will still be valid or partially valid in that base reality.

Again, what makes meaningless order feel artificial? Apart from that artefact by our distorted consciousness.

The universe is parsimoniously finite.

Imagine you build an ant farm and place fences surrounding the farm.
I am an adherent of the fine tuning argument i.e., if the fundamental constants of Physics like the vacuum permittivity and permeability, the Gravitational constant, if they are 1% higher or lower, the Universe as we know wouldn’t be stable.
There are only 2 possibilities:

  1. There is a God.
  2. There are parallel universes.
    Because both are religious, there is no evidence for any so far, I’d pick the first one.

Reality is nothing like software. I’m enjoying, I’m afraid, Brothers in Arms, Hell’s Highway, but you can see the joins, the boundaries, hear the limitations. That’s how you know you will always win. Life is nothing like that. There is no plot. No script. No story. But the approximations we make up. It is not even an analogy for life. For existence. The fact that you see it so is about you.

Fine tuning is an illusion. Vacuum permittivity is derived from c and mu zero - vacuum permeability - so is not a measured fundamental constant. There are five not counting the more abstruse nine Yukawa couplings and the like. You know the Higgs field potential and quark mixing matrix parameters. The coupling constants for the gauge groups. And the phase of the quantum chromodynamic vacuum.

Before we get to your possibilities we haven’t addressed the default position that along with all the ergonomic, rational laws of nature, from general relativity to the uncertainty principle, all of the constants are determined, fixed, by nature. They crystallize out at the vertices of the four forces, the elegant mathematical laws, the 11-17 dimensions when those all come in to being with quantum gravity at the dawn of the Planck epoch. If not before. To suggest that they are random is utterly absurd. Unwarranted.

Neither God nor parallel universes are necessary to explain that. The infinite multiverse does not have to exist to explain away our randomly tuned i.e. non-tuned universe. Nature self tunes. If anything can exist, everything we see can. And it does.

There is nothing religious, by which you mean by faith, about the multiverse. Unchanging eternity rationalistically extrapolated from empirical universal, mediocre uniformitarianism mandates the infinite multiverse form eternity in God or no.

Once again, nobody else here who speaks can handle the fact of eternity. The smart money says nothing. Because it knows that its emperor has no clothes.

There is no natural warrant for God. Except existential angst. And Jesus.

There is just one universe that we can observe, and the probability that the values we measure occurred is 100%, by definition. Why those values occur is a different, and scientifically unanswerable, question, but even an infinite number of universes with an infinite number of different values for the constants wouldn’t be guaranteed to give these values.

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