What's Your Opinion? Views on Creation Models and Eschatology

[St.Roymond]

@Terry_Sampson

Try this: Jesus didn’t “engineer a suicide-by-cop scenario.” He entered freely into a fullness of time cage — a world already hostile to love and truth and came with a nurtured and mature fidelity to the One whom he believed had sent him, and lived his life in that cage with the integrity of one who chose to love imperfect people. He foresaw the likely end but did not orchestrate it. There’s a profound difference between engineering death and accepting it as the cost of faithfulness.

Beautifully said, except that according to the scriptures He did orchestrate it, at least to the point of not letting the Adversary figure out what was going on, that death would be victory.

The best illustration I can recall at the moment is that of a bear and a bear trap: all the bears were getting caught in the trap and dying, but one bear came and deliberately walked into the trap so he could break it.

[Apistos]

@St.Roymond

@Apistos

I’ve missed nothing in the huge dark Christiano-Jewish story, and added something. The identification of that problem.

That you see a problem shows that you’ve missed the core.

And that is what? It’s not transcendent Love is the problem. It’s entirely human is the problem. The problem eclipses your core whatever you behold. But you will not see it through the filter of your core.

[Kendel]

@Apistos

I’m the fool K

Howso?

@Apistos

courageous

Again, howso?

[Apistos]

@St.Roymond

@RichardG

Christ was always going to come and die for us, it is a shame you misunderstand His real reasoning.

Not according to scripture. “Always come”, almost certainly; “die for us”, wasn’t the intention.

You bizarrely contradict yourself in the next post:

@St.Roymond

@Terry_Sampson

Try this: Jesus didn’t “engineer a suicide-by-cop scenario.” He entered freely into a fullness of time cage — a world already hostile to love and truth and came with a nurtured and mature fidelity to the One whom he believed had sent him, and lived his life in that cage with the integrity of one who chose to love imperfect people. He foresaw the likely end but did not orchestrate it. There’s a profound difference between engineering death and accepting it as the cost of faithfulness.

Beautifully said, except that according to the scriptures He did orchestrate it, at least to the point of not letting the Adversary figure out what was going on, that death would be victory.