No.
But why must I accept all of the scientific view and not just some of it?
All or nothiing?
Richard
So the no is a yes? You reject evolution with an even stronger non-belief. You can accept all scientific belief, but not abiogenesis and evolution. And you have no idea of an alternative?
- Some versions of faith can drift toward fear, control, or a narrow literalism. But I’m not sure these debates all belong on one spectrum. The Christian tradition has long wrestled with the Cross in more than one key: victory over evil, healing of human nature, reconciliation, as well as penal substitution in some streams. None of these require a God who harms himself to grab attention; they speak of a God who gives himself to rescue, heal, and restore. If we’re going to critique a view of atonement, can we name which version we mean and what we think love requires? That might help us avoid collapsing many positions—and people—into a single label.
- 1 John 4:18-19. “There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. We love because he first loved us.”
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Aye Terry, I’m well aware of the diversity of historical and current atonement theories, but none of them is not on the spectrum of Jesus believing that he had to engineer his appalling self sacrifice, at his Father’s behest, to achieve even limited atonement. Suicide by cop as I shockingly put in. A most shocking slant on the most shocking act. Not out of derision in the slightest. It was the most astounding act of love for humanity a person ever performed. I give him all good will. It shows what, naturally, we are capable of.
I said that I accept some of the evolutionary theory but not all of it!
Abiogenesis is another matter. As far as i know it is beyond the understanding of science.
RIchard
The intriguing thing is that, it may be beyond the understanding of science, … now; but it certainly isn’t beyond the speculation of science, is it? I have nephews and nieces who are all devout believers/speculators in abiogenesis, and who roll their eyes when I express my doubt and privately bet that proof of abiogenetic origin of life will never actually be contrived.
We might find the Loch Ness Monster or big Foot, you never know.
I think there is as much faith, or belief in such things as there is prossibilty of solution or proof. I admit I am doubtful that we will ever discover the secret of life, partly because i am not sure we have the wisdom to wield it.
Richard
