Ha! I was glad that all I had to do was look through website’s pages, which took minutes at most, and take screenshots, then post them in meaningful and proper order, which was easy enough to do.
“Excruciating”?? I find that one can’t be too detailed when dealing with folks’ who scrutinize every jot and tittle. [Plus: it keeps aging brain cells active’; and sometimes, if I’m lucky, drowns 'em in the details. I’ve been considering dropping my penchant for bullets to confuse ;em, too.]
That Bob Dylan song comes to mind, Gotta Serve Somebody.
As to your question, I think atheists genuinely believe there can be an objective world without God, but it’s a carry over from theistic belief. I’m open to explaining it further, but it goes back to what I was saying yesterday.
I tried to ask a question, but you just referred me to a previous post which didn’t help.
In your vernacular, when the creation of the virtual particle pair happens it doesn’t happen?
More to the point, your concepts of causation are strongly skewed towards classical mechanics which doesn’t adapt well to what we see at the quantum level. For example, how do your concepts of causation deal with radioactive decay? In yet another experiment, in Young’s double slit experiment, what causes a single photon to land at one spot on the detector instead of another?
Many of the concepts that people have put forward for how our universe came about is couched in quantum mechanics. Those concepts are going to have to be dealt with in these types of discussions.