you say Inspiration…I say Revelation; the Holy Spirit is the Bible’s Author by Christian Doctrine. Scripture is not a product of human intellect; it’s written by human messengers that recorded the precise intent of God. Then the truth is objective. As a mathematical model: let the a parabolic curves represent a parable…#1 the curve is the storyline.. #2 the focus is the moral of the storyline..#3 the directrix is the divine truth. then any point in the story, not only relates to a certain moral, but it also has to relate to a certain divine truth. Now because New Testament Jesus and Old Testament God are one in the same…. then all scripture has to reflect an element of divine truth..even Genesis.
Which of the 47,000 sects/denominations of Christianity are you?
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Not just a theory--the utility of mathematical models in evolutionary biology - PubMed here is a link to the mathematical modeling of biological evolution…being the topic of evolution comes up so often in this forum…don’t get confused with metaphysics (a philosophy debate on the structure of reality) and Science (the quanitive measurement of nature…chemistry…biology.. geology). Physics is basically just really a handful of the same mathematical equations presented in complex ways..mv=momentum, ma=force, force x distance=work (energy )…work÷time =power..how you apply them can explain a lot of nature’s phenomenons. In addition…Humanities and theology are distinctly different.
From the paper you linked.
Mathematical modeling is not new to biology.
The vast majority of users here would never confuse the two. The people who do tend to be YEC.
Having taken physics in college to prepare for an EE degree I can state confidently this is a very simplistic way to try to dismiss physics. Understanding physics requires much more than mere formula memorization.
Again, what exactly is your point? The Bible is not the only holy book to be studied in a humanities course.
Of course it is – otherwise God trampled a human intellect every time some scripture got written.
I second that notion!
please be more clear on your position…first you Argued against mathematical modeling in science…then you are argue that mathematical modeling is part of biology …which one is it?
there is a difference with being equal to God…and being subject to God
Just reviewed my 4 posts and see nothing where I argued against mathematical modeling. My point was in response to your..
math != explanation
Pot calling the kettle black. I still have no idea what you are trying to say. Can you simply express what your position actually is without trying to be cute with the math references?
that’s good to hear that you didn’t post any arguments against mathematical modeling in science….so you agree with me on that point…now, back to the subject….what about Genesis being the divine truth.
Which as far as I can see has nothing to do with my point.
to rephrase…obedience to God does not trample free will….liberty is not the absolute right to do what every one chooses…
Remember this?
How do you define “divine truth”?
divinity isn’t so much an idea, as it is a characteristic: do you think Jesus Christ was divine?
Jesus.
All theology is about Jesus.
search Google Search and check out the AI overview. Don’t forget to check out the sources/links that the AI Overview uses. Also check out the top results of the search as well as the search Do most Hebrew experts agree that Genesis is a historical narrative and not poetry or any other type of literature - Search?
Check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3txmpHQJ520 (What does the original Hebrew text reveal about Genesis 1-11? - Dr. Steve Boyd by Is Genesis History?
Provide counter-arguments do the arguments that Genesis is literal.
I found https://biologos.org/articles/a-former-young-earth-creationist-responds-to-is-genesis-history.
Why would you direct people using their un-artificial intelligence and actual expertise to check out an AI summary? You came to this forum and asked people who know what they are talking about (I worked 13 years in Bible translation and have 2 MAs in applied linguistics) to answer a question, we did, and now you are all “but AI…” ??? Come on, man. Don’t waste our time like this.
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You mean like
Like the AI site that will write papers for you? The other sites appear to be all YEC. And if you ask the Google AI it will admit that it takes your personal search history into account when it generates an answer. In other words, it shades that answer it gives you to match your personal background.
Or you could go to sources like The SBL Study Bible that says
The biggest counter argument is simply the age of the universe.
And there is a much longer AI Overview (with a more balanced selection of sources) if you put in the query “what is the evidence that Genesis is not a historical narrative”. So in a AI grudge match who wins?
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All I can say is that Google is lying to you by excluding the results of actual scholarship and buying into the notion that the only possible literary categories are those used by modern westerners.
Simple: it’s the wrong kinds of literature. Genesis1 manages to use two literary types at once, both of which employ narrative but neither of which is meant as history.
Can I ask you something?
Do you think that the following books:
- The Shepherd of Hermas
- The Epistle of Barnabas
- First Clement
Are divinely inspired (or “written by God”, as you say) or not? If not, why not? To clarify: I don’t think those writings were divinely inspired, but I would like to know why you don’t (if you don’t).