A lot to get into there, I like it
Firstly, I again just want to acknowledge that deep journey you’re on @gbob, especially with your health situation. Praise God that he holds you all through it - but it must be very confronting at times and these topics no doubt take on a deeper meaning as you say in light of all that.
Second, woah - that Nobel prize Steven Weinberg physicist you quote at the beginning of your Wigner’s thread post - what a guy. I plan/hope to do a deep dive into his works at some point. When looking him up on Google and following the bouncing ball of trying to understand him in a nutshell (for now) - I came across a very interesting article where he was interviewed and gave some candid responses to very deep issues, along with commenting on all manner of physical theories I know not about. Here is the link to that article:
Nobel Laureate Steven Weinberg Still Dreams of Final Theory 2015 interview with Steven Weinberg about physics and a ‘final theory’
Ah, and excuse the swearing at the start - the whole tone of the article is ‘let’s cut to the real juicy bits and forget the rest’, so yeah - didn’t not want to include it just cause of that.
I want to draw out two quotes in particular from that interview with Weinberg that struck me:
Horgan: Do you still believe in the attainability of a “final theory” of physics, one that ends what you called “the ancient search for those principles that cannot be explained in terms of deeper principles”?
Weinberg: I still expect there to be a final theory, but I’m less confident that humans will discover it in this century.
The implications of Weinberg’s answer to the question of a final theory are immense - Weinberg is pretty much hailed as one of the living, breathing gurus of the physical sciences alive on this earth today (and, just saying, according to the interviewer he looks like some kind of regal elf which only adds to the effect of him being kinda ethereally majestic). Nonetheless, despite his guru status and deep, hard to compare with knowledge of physics, he says there is no final theory yet - but there might be - sometime in the 2100s! The implication of that is a real knock out wave. This envokes imaginary musings, Simpsons style, of me wanting to pay however many $10,000s it will be to have my body put in a deep freeze with instructions “wake me up in 2150” to see if this final theory has been discovered yet. Indeed, this elusive final theory. and to it I can only find the word right now - Selah. This ‘theory of everything’ - which is kind of what I and I think you (if I’m reading correctly) are suggesting must exist but we just don’t grasp it yet - indeed as per Weinberg’s comment above, we collectively as the human race are not there yet. What a goal to aspire to.
Connected to this, I note Weinberg is hailed for winning a:
Nobel Prize in 1979 for helping to show that electromagnetism and the weak nuclear force are different aspects of an underlying electroweak force.
This does make me feel better about my own personal theory that this “force” Weinberg has studied has to be connected, somehow, to the spiritual realm as well as the natural realm. How, I do not know. Through the course of this thread, I’m hoping to at least throw out some ideas that might get knocked back here and by that process, at least work out some of the ‘well it’s probably not this’ elements. I was going to make some comments about ghosts and the electromagnetic light spectrum here but I’m going to split that off into another comment/post - gotta try and keep things concise.
Anyhow, I’ve gotten side tracked (awe struck maybe) by Weinberg here. Referring to your post above, I’d love to read and ‘get into’ your other threads and blogs - I am to be honest a little intimidated/overwhelmed by the deep thinking, deep brain work that would be required to do that justice though - the lazy but perhaps efficient side of me wants to ask whether you could (pretty please ) somehow summarise the key findings; to whittle all that amazing research to the real core, key parts of all those works … maybe into 700 words total?? [Imaginary musing: “700 words! He wants me to summarise it all into 700 words … who is this upstart, phfwarh, ha, he - hmm, hm”
I’ve learnt, in my own career much of which entails written communication, including having to write many a court report and many a memo to executive level people - readers want to know ‘the main points, stat, cut the detail’. I’ve had in years past what I’d call “red pen destruction” lines through my work that has carved up my ‘beautiful constructions’ that took me hours but that red pen taught me some good lessons. You have an awesome amount of knowledge @gbob, I think you are literally brimming with it and having that more accessible to a wider audience would just be great.
Well, before I come across majorly hypocritical- I better wrap this little post on up. But don’t go away @gbob - I know you won’t - as there are more things I’d like to ask you as this thread unfolds and I really - seriously - appreciate having a physical scientist floating around to approach, one who is a Biblical literalist no less (pre warning - I will he hitting you up with a few specific questions about that, in relation to general metaphysical topics, soon - sooon (comically ominous tone).
Till then (hat tip emoji)