They were reading the Greek word not the English word. Psyche is pronounced si-kee in English. But the Koine Greek word for soul is ψυχή (psu-che, transliterated) and that is what they were referring to because they were talking about translating Greek, not the English word entymologically related to the Greek. Psyche and soul aren’t really synonyms in English.
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If I remember correctly, they don’t believe unembodied souls go somewhere to wait for the Judgment. They believe when you die, you are dead until your being is resurrected as a newly created physical body in the New Creation at the Resurrection/Last Judgment.
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- From Biologos’ own site: NT Wright | New Creation Breaking In Written and audio transcript of Jim Stump’s interview of N.T. Wright:
- " Description: New Testament scholar N.T. Wright sits down with Jim Stump to explore how Christians should think about the past, the future, and the story that holds them together. What does it mean to say that something in the Bible “really happened”? And how do we distinguish between history, parable, and poetic imagination without missing the point of Scripture altogether?
- Wright reflects on how modern assumptions about “history” can distort the way we read the Bible, and why the early Christians insisted that certain events—especially the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus—must be understood as real happenings in the world. At the same time, he shows how other parts of Scripture operate differently, inviting readers into a larger vision rather than offering straightforward historical reporting.
- From there, the conversation turns toward the future: the Christian hope of new creation. Drawing on themes from across the New Testament, Wright describes a vision not of escape from the world, but of its renewal. The resurrection of Jesus becomes the key—both a real event in the past and the pattern for what God intends for all creation.
- Along the way, Wright connects these ideas to everyday life. If God’s future is one of restoration and renewal, what does that mean for how we live now? How do acts of justice, care, and faithfulness become “signposts” of the coming world?
- This episode offers a thoughtful and accessible guide to reading Scripture more wisely, understanding Christian hope more deeply, and imagining how the story of new creation is already beginning to take shape in the present. It also offers a special musical performance after the credits!
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