I found this very kind and respectful conversation (about 1.5 hours long!) taught me much about animal suffering. Randal Rauser discusses (and frequently agrees with) a kindly, vegetarian atheist about Darwin’s dilemma on parasitic wasps, how YEC interpretation of the Bible could accommodate sharks becoming carnivores, and the Cartesian/ William Lane Craig question of whether animals suffer or not.
If you have time to listen to it, such as on a jog or drive, I’d like to hear your thoughts on this.