Hello all! I’ve been reading on this forum for a few weeks now and I have decided it was time I got involved. I am a YEC who is trying to better understand the EC position on Genesis. I thought I would start with a few questions I have about the Genesis Genealogies:
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What purpose did God have for inspiring the author(s) to include the patriarchs’ ages with the genealogies? I understand that ECs believe the ages are symbolic, but symbolic of what? There a few that make sense symbolically (Enoch’s 365 could be symbolic of the length of a year, and Lamech’s 777 could be symbolic of a perfect life), but what is Adam’s lifespan of 930 years symbolic of? What about Methuselah’s 969? Noah’s 950? etc. If the ages are meant to be symbolic, then surely God would have given us a way to decipher the symbolism behind them?
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Going off that, why include the ages at all? If Genesis not meant to be viewed as history, why include any chronological data? The only purpose I can think of for including the age of the patriarchs at the age of a son and the age of death is to established a chronological chain of events, But ECs don’t believe Genesis is meant to be viewed in this way. The chronological data seems to be there simply to deceive us well-meaning YECs into making our ~6,000-year timeline.
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Assuming for a moment the ages are symbolic, why can they not also be historical? There are several instances in Scripture in which numbers were both symbolic and historical. For example, Jesus spent 40 days in the desert. The 40 is symbolic of the 40 years Israel spent wandering after the Exodus, but it is also historical, because Jesus really did spend 40 days in the desert. So my question is, does the symbolic nature of a number have to negate its historicity?
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This is a question for ECs who believe Adam and Eve were real people, but simply part of the initial population of homo sapiens called by God 300,000 years ago (or whenever it was). “Genesis Adam” is said to have lived 930 years, but how long did “historical Adam” live? Presumably something like 60 or 70 years? So, if “historical Adam” only lived 60 years, would it be lying for God to inspire the author of Genesis to tell us that "Genesis Adam lived 930 years? (I not accusing anyone here of making God a liar, I think this is a legitimate question).
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I know some ECs on this forum believe there are gaps in the genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11, and I was wondering if they could provide any evidence from Scripture itself to support this claim. Please know that I am aware of the argument that yalad can mean any descendant, not just father-son, and I am aware of the gaps in the genealogies of Matthew and Luke. The thing is, we are aware of these gaps because we can look back at Genesis, Kings, and Chronicles and find exactly where the gaps are. We can even fill in most of the gaps (all except the one between Salmon and Boaz). What I want to know is, is there any passage of scripture we can look at that indicates that there are gaps in the genealogies of Genesis, in the same manner that that passages in Kings and Chronicles indicate gaps in the genealogies of Matthew and Luke? To my knowledge there is not.
I know this is a lot of questions for one thread, but I did my best to have them bounce off each other. I’ve read some people on this forum claim that Genesis and the Bible is not about chronology, but to me that sounds unwarranted. Genesis alone is filled with chronological data that has allowed many Biblical scholars to construct highly detailed timelines of Biblical events. My overall question is this: If God did not intend for us to take Genesis as history, why is there so much chronological data for us to work with? That data seems completely pointless unless we were meant to use it.
I appreciate and look forward to any answers you can provide for me, thank you.