Pithy quotes from our current reading which give us pause to reflect

I listened to The Other by Ryszard Kapuściński, when Another from the Forum mentioned reading it now. Outstanding little book. I’m going back through it looking for the many gems I failed to examine on my sprint the first time through. Kapuściński mentions the concept of The Encounter a number of times in the book. It’s an important one in the people-oriented work I have always done and in what makes me tick. The Encounter is how we really expand our worlds and our values.

When I say travel, naturally I do not mean tourist trips. In a reporter’s understanding, a journey is a challenge and an effort, involving hard work and dedication; it is a difficult task, an ambitious project to accomplish. As we travel, we can feel that something important is happening, that we are taking part in something of which we are at once both witnesses and creators, that there is a duty incumbent upon us, and that we are responsible for something.

And in fact we are responsible for the road we are travelling. We often feel sure that we are walking or driving down a particular road just this once in our lives, and that we shall never return to it again, so we must not miss anything from this journey, we cannot overlook or lose anything, because we are going to give an account of it all, write a report, a story — we are going to examine our conscience. And so, as we travel we concentrate, we focus our attention and sharpen our hearing. The road we are on is very important, because each step along it takes us nearer to an encounter with the Other, and that is exactly why we are there.

The Other by Ryszard Kapuściński, Bookshare edition, 20%.

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What a remarkable quote I found today in Simon Critchley’s Continental Philosophy: A Very Short Introduction

“… But the human being has such a choice, this single one: Nothingness or a God. Choosing Nothingness, he makes himself into a God; that is, he makes an apparition into God because if there is no God, it is impossible that man and everything which surrounds him is not merely an apparition. I repeat: God is, and outside of me, a living being, existing in itself, or I am God. There is no third.”

Friedrich Jacobi - Open Letter to Fichte 1799

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Insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting the same results can equal insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

Kapuściński quotes Lévinas fairly often in this book. I think I’ll need ot add Lévinas to my reading list as well.

It is this indifference towards the Other, which creates an atmosphere capable in particular circumstances of leading to Auschwitz, that Lévinas countered with his philosophy. Stop, he seems to be saying to the man hurrying along in the rushing crowd. There beside you is another person. Meet him. This sort of encounter is the greatest event, the most vital experience of all. Look at the Other’s face as he offers it to you. Through this face he shows you yourself: more than that — he brings you closer to God.
Lévinas goes further. He says you must not only meet the Other, accept him and converse with him, but you must also take responsibility for him. Lévinas’s philosophy distinguishes the individual and singles it out. He indicates that apart from myself there is also someone Other, but — if I fail to make the effort to notice or to show a desire to meet — we shall pass each other by indifferently, coldly and without feeling, blandly and heartlessly. Meanwhile, says Lévinas, the Other has a face, and it is a sacred book in which good is recorded.

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I’m not sure what my feeling is in reading this, which then reminds me of Sam Keen who in his thirties could recount the history of 18th and 19th century philosophy with ease, but could not tell whether he was angry, ashamed, or confused inside.

It was in a class on phenomenology and the professor came from a line of Merleau-Ponty and Levinas. Levinas was his darling, and I still regret not taking the class he taught specifically about him. But it was in our third class together, and I’m working through Heidegger for the first time and feeling absolutely alone. In my cries to Jesus, he came to me and I felt his presence.

So when an opportunity came later to read papers in class, I wrote about my reading of Heidegger and my experience and then read it. This seasoned seventy year old professor who prided himself on the coolness of not getting emotionally entangled in philosophy… lost his nerve. “Don’t make this about you!”

There are other people and then there is Another.

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I’m reading this, in part, in light of Matthew 25:34-45 and my understanding of the destructive nature of christian indifference to the Other.

34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’

Likewise I read this in light of the Postmodern concern with the Self, which is not necessarily in regard to my own Self, but that of another.

Finally, I read this in light my own experience, typical of a white American up-bringing in the '70s and '80s. I was born a few months before the most recent race riot in Detroit, and grew up watching destroyed buildings from that week continue to decay and crumble, never having been repaired. Many of the ruins still partially stand. I was raised with the deep, unstated understanding: people who are different from you are dangerous.
In college I commuted 22 miles east from my white, blue-collar neighborhood into an alien world of Wayne State University, in the heart of Detroit 5 days a week for 4 years and spent a year in the middle in another country, functioning in a different language. There is nothing more educationally, humanly formative or valuable than to spend real life time with the Other, work with the Other, live with the Other and be in genuine relationship with the Other.

Not having read Keen, Heidegger, Merleau-Ponty or Lévinas, I cannot speak to your concerns. Merleau-Ponty and Lévinas are names I’ve come across in footnotes and references in past and current work and whose work from those references seems potentially of interest to me. I can say nothing more about them.

I have a hard time even reading it as “christian indifference” to other people.

non-christian indifference?

Christians, while claiming all the rights and privileges of children of God, are regularly indifferent to people who are not in their tribe, even their own denomination!
You can evaluate their salvation and/or membership however you feel comfortable doing. Jesus is pretty clear that he is in a position to do it.

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Even indifferent to their own kids… but this is besides the point.

I’m not sure what you have in mind, but I have seen destructive indifference (ranging to antipathy) to kids, particularly adult “kids”, by parents in church.

That’s what I have in mind. Seen it, experienced it, and have done it myself.

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While in the higher (‘James’ sense) of being Christian - this can be seen as an oxymoron, yet one has to keep in mind that we regularly traffic in two different definitions of ‘Christian’ and sometimes freely pop back in forth between the two so that context must always be used to discern.

In one sense ‘Christian’ refers to actual Christ followers who in the final judgment will hear “Well done, good and faithful servant…”

In the other sense ‘Christian’ refers to a lesser, cultural Christendom which is seen as having thoroughly adulterated itself with principalities and powers - the concerns of institution and maintenance of wealth/power. This will include many who indulge in indifference and worse regarding their neighbors.

The hard, reflective question for each to ask is where do we find ourselves in that? I think the answer can vary from moment to moment, even for an individual.

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“christianly indifference” is how I read it at first

Just read this witty poem in @Jay313’s new Thread:

Alexander Pope’s “An Essay on Man”:

Know then thyself, presume not God to scan;
The proper study of mankind is Man.
Placed on this isthmus of a middle state,
A being darkly wise, and rudely great:
With too much knowledge for the Skeptic side
With too much weakness for the Stoic’s pride,
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest.
In doubt to deem himself a god, or beast;
In doubt his mind or body to prefer,
Born to die, and reasoning but to err;
Alike in ignorance, his reason such,
Whether he thinks too little, or too much:
Chaos of thought and passion, all confused;
Still by himself abused, or disabused;
Created half to rise, and half to fall;
Great lord of things, yet a prey to all;
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurled;
The glory, jest, and riddle of the world

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I’ve been reading Jesus and John Wayne this week, and while don’t have a pithy quote offhand, have found it very interesting and insightful. {insert pause to reflect} The history of how we got here is one that I was unaware of, what with the influence of Teddy Roosevelt, Billy Graham, and other public figures.

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I read that not too long ago, and will read your insights and reactions with interest. Not a flattering work with regard to its subject, but I felt like she was evenhanded (at least as much as possible) about it and bestowed or conceded any praise where it was due.

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@Mervin_Bitikofer and @jpm, my reaction was the same. It’s an important book. It’s also causing my decision-making process to be much harder.

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A few more quotes I found pity from The Other by Ryszard Kapuściński. This was a fast read and worth every moment.

The Stranger, the Other in his Third World incarnation (and so the most numerous individual on our planet), is still treated as the object of research, but has not yet become our partner, jointly responsible for the fate of the planet on which we live.
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This sounds petty to many of us, who are used to having access to leadership positions or to leaders and representatives. But we cannot claim to have achieved any kind of equality or equity, if the same groups of people are still calling the shots that were 50 years ago. That is only change for looks.


Jézef Tischner practised the philosophy of the Other with passion and perspicacity to the very end of his earthly journey. In his tireless promotion of its beliefs and principles — and this is true today in particular, in the times we live in — lie profound humanity and genuine heroism. And that is why, apart from strictly academic values, it is worth so much that it bravely and openly comes out in defence of another person, in defence of the Other, in a world that so often yields to the temptations of selfishness and greedy consumerism.

The great merit of this philosophy is that it talks about the individual person at all, about each single one as significant in himself, and that it keeps on reminding us of his existence and articulation. In all our postmodern commotion, in our confusion of languages, a strong, clear voice raising such qualities as identity, respect, noticing and esteeming another — the Other — is invaluable. But that is not the end of it; in developing and enriching the themes that appear in Emmanuel Lévinas’s philosophy, particularly in Totality and Infinity , Tischner says that the Self not only has to relate to the Other, but must assume responsibility for him and be prepared to bear the consequences of such a decision, such an attitude. Is there a Christian act of sacrifice in this? Yes — of sacrifice, renunciation and humility.
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Let’s take this to heart.


Emmanuel Lévinas calls an encounter with the Other an ‘event’, or even a ‘fundamental event’; this is the most important test, the most far-reaching horizon of experience. As we know, Lévinas belonged to the group of dialogist philosophers that included Martin Buber, Ferdinand Ebner and Gabriel Marcel (later Józef Tischner joined their group too); they developed the idea of the Other — as a single, unique being — in more or less central opposition to two phenomena that appeared in the twentieth century. These were: the birth of mass society that erased the identity of the individual; and the rise of destructive totalitarian ideologies. These philosophers tried to protect the value they considered the greatest — the human individual: me, you, the Other, Others — from the effects of the masses and totalitarianism that eliminate all human identity (hence they disseminated the concept of the Other to underline the difference between one person and another, the difference of having irreplaceable, non-exchangeable features).

Where relations towards the Other and Others are concerned, these philosophers rejected the war route as leading to destruction, and criticised the attitude of indifference or isolation behind a wall, proclaiming instead the need — more than that, the ethical duty — to approach, to be open and friendly.

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The real challenge of our times, the encounter with the new Other, the racially and culturally Other, also derives from a broader historical context. The second half of the twentieth century was a time when two-thirds of the world’s population were liberated from colonial dependency and became citizens of their own, at least nominally autonomous states. Gradually these people are starting to discover their own past, myths and roots, their own history, sense of identity and, of course, the pride resulting from it. They are starting to feel themselves masters and commanders of their own destiny, regarding with hatred any attempts to treat them purely as extras, as the background, as victims or passive objects of domination.

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Years ago, my mother-in-law expressed outright worry after hearing yet another news report about the non-white population of the U.S. eventually outnumbering the white population (as if they were two homogenous masses) – them against us, I guess. I tartly (uncharitably) retorted she needed to start making new kinds of friends.
But I also meant it. We need to expand our horizons and learn to appreciate, welcome, be with, invite people we perceive as other and who see us that way as well.

Mark, I saw this post yesterday, when I didn’t have the brain power left to bother reading it. Done now. THis was great! So many pithy lines. I could quote them, but I’d just be retyping the poem in bits.
We are the embodiment of contradictions.

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Thanks for drawing me back here. I knew There was a thread I meant to come back to for s post of yours but couldn’t think which. Think I’ll have at it now.

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