Since you’re being obtuse, I’ll open my mouth and explain the relevancy.
Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others. In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
Paul commands us to model our relationships with others on the example of Christ. Our “prime directive” is not to place our personal interest ahead of everyone else’s. “In humility value others above yourselves.” Paul explains the mindset of Christ Jesus as:
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant (duolos – literally “of a slave”)
As God the Father’s equal, Jesus had every right to do as he pleased. Yet he set aside his own rights and humbled himself to become a slave on our behalf.
Draw your own conclusion and application. It seems pretty clear to this yokel.
So were we all crazy then (and enslaved) by our eventual (and permanent!) acquiescence to wear seat belts - and that only grudgingly under governmental mandated insistence? I take it that you disapprove of the government taking that choice away from us, and that we have now gone down the road toward slavery each time we buckle up? You still haven’t been able to give any answer to how “masking up” is of such great cost to anybody - when in fact the more compelling suggestion is that not masking up could end up costing businesses their opportunity for opening earlier than they otherwise might. Which adolescent is more likely to earn the parents’ trust for loosening up on a curfew - the child who’s proven they can behave themselves? Or the child that demonstrates no awareness of or care for the world beyond themselves? Businesses and society in general that understandably chafe under such restriction may do well to self-reflectively ask the question … “so just why is it that we can’t have nice things?”
Laws against indecent exposure are government mandates.
Laws against cocaine trafficking. Laws against insider trading. Laws prohibiting elected officials from accepting of gifts from foreign governments.
Government mandates. Government mandates. Government mandates.
You are consistently making the case, Vance, that government mandates are inherently wrong. But you are extremely inconsistent in applying that standard, Vance.
If you would make the argument for legal cocaine trafficking, legal insider trading, legal emoluments, and legal driving at 120 MPH in your neighborhood, then I would respect you for the sake of your logical consistency.
I think I just stumbled on the solution to our Christian school’s perennial dress code struggles! After all … clothes only did come into the scene because of sin, right? We creationists who hearken back to God’s good creation should be all over this one.
This is amusing. So many people stretching their arguments past the elastic limit of reason — unwilling to admit their positions and mine differ only by our preferences along a continuous line.
And so many people willing to consider law the declarations of single executives who are not law makers.
And the silly question about the surgeon? Isn’t that a work rule, a condition of continued employment? Pretending that is the same as requiring well people to stay on house arrest or wear masks walking on a sidewalk is disingenuous.
It is not intended that way. I was addressing the argument that this is an issue of personal freedom.
I believe that this question about safety is better addressed by Dr Fauci and the others who know their stuff that are on this forum. It appears that the health arguments strongly favor what has been recommended. I’m not going to rehash them now.
I’m a primary care physician in a rural region, and over the years have been in the OR many hours as a first assistant. The rules for safety dictate we give up our personal freedom based on good science.
It sounds like, as I thought, you agree that freedom does not trump safety. Thanks.
Maybe someone can help me out finding some information either on the cdc or the WHO websites?
Studies are showing a clear indication that vitamin d deficiency is related to poorer outcomes in Covid patients. This is a big risk factor and we should be recommending that people take vitamin d supplements particularly if they are unable to get out in the Sun. Could someone show me where this is referenced and vit d supplemention is recommended on the CDC and WHO websites?
Your position is very unclear to me, Vance, but I am willing to keep trying to understand it.
The terminology you have used for a particular government mandate that reduces choice and imposes inconvenience (mask wearing) is “a step toward slavery.”
Other examples of government mandates that reduce choice and impose inconvenience are speed limits, drunk driving laws, seatbelt laws, emoluments, wartime curfews, and curfews during hurricanes.
According to the terminology you are using in this forum, these are all “steps toward slavery.” Each and every one.
You seem to indicate that you support these restrictions (speed limits, drunk driving laws, etc.) So I am curious: On what basis are you willing to accept these “steps toward slavery”? What is the justification for these “steps toward slavery”?
Or do you actually reject speed limits, drunk driving laws, laws against cocaine trafficking/emoluments/insider trading?
I’ll say a prayer for your decision. I’m not sure what I would do. Many in my church are similar, but one of the elders is a family physician with a very level head.
One point may be that it’s possible by your staying there, interacting in a loving way, you will counteract their fear. It’s out of fear that they act that way, anyway. It’s definitely harder to stay, and I wouldn’t if you think you or your family are in danger of getting dangerous ideas, or being exposed to Covid unnecessarily by dangerous actions, however,
Not likely. I think Bill Gates has paid off these organization to lie to you to kill people so he makes billions of dollars via never actually specified means. I had a facebook poster that told me that this graphic is “based on hours of research”:
