People do not have a choice about obeying the speed limit.
Nor do they have a choice about obeying laws regarding drunk driving, cocaine use, meth use, seat belt use, child safety seat use (as Christy points out), and many other legal regimes.
You claim to support these legal regimes. Why do you support them, Vance, if they inhibit and sometimes prevent choice?
Americans are not given choice regarding seat belt use, driving under the influence, recreational use of cocaine and meth, and the use of child safety seats. Yet you support those laws, even though they restrict choice. Why is that, Vance?
Best,
Chris Falter
But you do agree with many of them, right? And the ones you agree with inhibit choice, right?
You ARE on the side of cocaine/meth usage, speeding, and drunk driving being NOT a choice. Rather, these behaviors should be, according to you, regulated by law and compliance should be required under penalty of imprisonment.
It would appear you have strained out the nat and swallowed the camel, so to speak. @Christy wasnāt making a point about the pragmatic pros and cons of a gun in a safe. Youāre comment makes it appear like you are either being unhelpfully obtuse or youāve missed the point entirely.
Whatever the reason, my spidey senses are starting to tingle and not in a good way.
Liam, but Christyās post did inadvertently make the point that people can disagree on the extent to which we tradeoff freedoms, rights, safety, and preferences.
She mentioned a requirement to keep guns in a safe. I think that is a good example of the differences that can exist in judgment among reasonable people.
Thanks Vance. Prevention is the name of the game. No doubt that masks and distancing are important in mitigating the spread of Covid 19 and all other infectious diseases but there is also the prevention of susceptibility to the virus that is crucial. This is not 1918 and we are much more medically advanced and researchers are understanding the mechanism of action that this virus that is causing disease. Researchers are beginning to understand why certain people with certain other medical conditions make them very susceptible to the virus and why the vast majority of the population are barely effected by the virus. Vitamin d is a component in improving our general health that makes us less susceptible to the virus. Thereās going to be more coming out that will be gamechangers that will greatly improve our ability to prevent the virus and to treat those infected.
And Iāll bet it didnāt give you any special thrill that you were able to choose to be responsible instead of complying with a law. Some things need to be spelled out. Apparently that is true for masking if we are ever to get the economy up and running again without over crowding the hospitals and graveyards.
Oh brotherā¦ This is the second absurdly unrelated reference to firearms use - a hugely emotive and divisive topic - from you today. Here is the first
Iām calling it as graciously as I can, however, this just looks like plain old trolling.
Can we please get back to the topic of this thread now? Dealing with Conspiracy theories and the local church.
My law enforcement friends all lock their guns in safes when they are off-duty. Because children can kill themselves or others playing with guns left around. Leaving weapons where children can find them is negligence.
That is one approach. The other is to teach children not to handle them and not to get the car keys and start the car.
I also teach them not to handle my butcher knives, which are more dangerous than a semiautomatic pistol with a slide that has to be racked before a round is chambered. My wife has trouble racking some of those slides. But I donāt keep my butcher knives locked in a safe.
What does wearing masks have to do with any of this? People donāt just have an intuition about things that they canāt see with their naked eyes. Itās not like I get to just make a judgment on how infectious diseases spread.
Yes, and gun owners should take care to protect visitors who have not been raised to protect themselves and others.
When babies are at my house, I put a baby gate to make the steps off limits too. And I move the knives out of the drawer and to a place with a child lock.
I think the analogy doesnāt carry on terms of scienceā¦but love the humor. Thanks. I donāt use guns, but many in my family do. In fact, when I was dating my wife, I made the mistake of remarking that while I hunt with a bow, I didnāt feel comfortable around guns. My wifeās uncle pulled me aside and quietly whispered, āDonāt say that too loud around here.ā
To get back to churchā¦how are people opdning up their churches? Are they holding information question and answer sessions? I am concerned many will rebel against a mask use in our sanctuary. Thanks.
Exactly. And germ owners should take care to protect visitors (or other people out in public) who do not have the immunity to protect themselves. And wearing masks have been shown to do that. Thatās all weāre saying.
