If your kid plays with a chain saw inside the home, it’s still a wee problem. Or gets into your pot. or whatever.
I think they’re more interested in your blood, and aren’t very fussy beyond that.
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Why don’t you volunteer to pass out the Christian swag bags and refuse to wear a mask? Be sure to lean into the car widow and explain to the kiddos why the exercise of your personal liberty is more important than their health or the health of their parents.
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I hear vitamin D pairs nicely with bleach.
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Jay, apparently my views have gotten on your nerves.
But I will answer you question anyway:
- Doing so would reflect poorly on the church and
- Doing so would not be allowed by the church, the sponsor of the activity.
People can believe in freedom and still give up part of it for the good of others.
I have been in a small meeting a couple of times with that icon of civil rights, Andy Young.
He was asked once about a particular invasion of privacy. He said that he believed no one should have to give up that freedom, but that he gave up certain freedoms to be in public service.
But in one way you are right, kids do need to know the values of freedom. An event handing out things at church is just not the right forum for that very important message.
We don’t have any covid conspiracies in my church. We go with the science.
People, don’t let your churches and pastors lie to you. Even if they are sincere. It’s a very serious issue.
Don’t get me wrong. Bit D may well have some benefit and little downside. It is just not a panacea.
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If you think personal liberty trumps (pun intended) everything that Jesus said and did, then your views are profoundly un-Christian. Which they are.
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Oops withdrawn
Well, I certainly don’t think that personal liberty trumps what Jesus said.
I do think your interpretation of the words of Jesus may be off the mark as you tried to apply them to this topic.
I think they were pretty clear, and pretty clearly applicable. Jesus gave up his personal rights and dignity to take the place of a slave. If you want to see an acted-out version of that parable, Jesus gave up his place at the head of the table to take the place of a slave and wash his disciples’ feet. Peter was outraged. I’d be glad to discuss some other passages with you, if you’d like. We could start with how Paul willingly gives up his rights for the sake of the gospel in 1 Cor. 9.
My point is pretty simple. You are making a political value – personal liberty/freedom – take precedence over the clear teaching and example of Jesus and his apostles. If you’re not even willing to bend your political principle an inch for the sake of the most vulnerable, then it seems obvious that your conduct is guided by political and national considerations, not Christ. Search your own heart on the matter.
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Well, Jay, we disagree on this topic, on the interpretation of scripture, and on the extent to which the Savior and the Apostle Paul gave up freedoms.
Of course, Jesus was not a Roman citizen. Paul was, and Paul invoked the rights of that citizenship numerous times — ranging from his requirement that city officials escort him out of jail to his appeal to Caesar.
Peter defied authorities after his faith was solidified by the resurrection.
I appreciate and respect your right to your own interpretation and position on these matters. I encourage you to consider that you might be wrong.
When state governments close churches and open abortion clinics and liquor stores, we do have reason to question their judgment.
The sermon on the mount has some good statements on worry and extending lives.
Would you like to quote the specific passages that are driving your position? I am willing to discuss. I have read the gospels many times and am leading a small group now through the gospel of John.
If I have to hear this one more time… there are of course other reasons, but which of the three places increases the risk of spreading a virus the most?
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Isn’t it strange that the Orange Leader never insisted that libraries are essential?
Some would argue that opening a church creates a risk of death and opening an abortion clinic creates a certainty of death.
All I said was that we have a right to question the government decisions.
I could have asked why big box stores like Target and Walmart are open while mom and pop stores are forced closed?
Which has a greater chance of spreading the virus, a building with hundreds or a building with a dozen?
And that would be ridiculous to compare the two. You can’t cough or sing an abortion into someone who then spreads it to others.
It depends many things like airflow and density of people and possibly easier to regulate and centralize compliance with the best health practices. Like these stores:
But I have no idea really. Many might not have the resources like I said for proper health practices.
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I don’t agree with your view, Matthew.
But I do appreciate your admitting you can’t justify closing Mom and Pop stores while keeping open big box stores.
The governors making those decisions can’t justify them either. They are arbitrary decisions; arbitrary decisions which are driving people into bankruptcy.
So you think you can cough or sing an abortion into someone?
Do they sell health items, food, etc.? In other words, while they sell products that people might want they are not immediately needed for survival. Maybe you know of examples.
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Well, I was hoping for a serious discussion.
Isn’t their financial survival important?
Does it matter that people would like to go to those stores?
I think life is about more than immediate survival needs.