As a presuppositionalist. I see more and more how arbitrary our society has become, and no different in the church, evidenced by this video.
“Theology, bible, Christianity is not tidy”
Ummmm…only to a person who places their own fallen human intellect over the authority of scripture.
His example of untidiness is that people wrote much different than we do today i.e. Moses wrote Genesis 3500 years ago, (please note) he can understand the rest of the bible, just not Genesis 1 and 2. Genesis 1 and 2 is untidy
He claims that Genesis was not written not to be in chronological order but thematic order, (please note) that there are numbers and number of days in Genesis, but we will just ignore that, because that doesn’t fit his narrative.
He claims that both Hugh Ross and Ken Ham are both concordist, and they try to read the bible in such a way, but goes on to ask, what if we are not to read the bible that way? (please note) how he doesn’t apply this theory to the rest of the bible, which would then render all of scripture “untidy”
So, now we get to the crux of the issue. How do we deal with animal death before sin? (please note) that he set this up in a way that we can’t trust scripture errr…sorry that we can’t trust our interpretation of scripture.
He says, that the presumption is that animals did not die before the fall, but that it is not clear to him just from reading the text, (please note) scripture says, (Genesis 1:31) “And God saw EVERYTHING that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day”
He claims that people may infer that belief from something Paul wrote in Romans chapter 5, talking about the fall and that nothing died before the fall, (please note) I have not a clue what he is talking about. I, nor have anyone I listen to uses Romans chapter 5.
He doesn’t see anything in Genesis 1 that animals didn’t die before the fall, (please note) scripture says, (Genesis 1:31) “And God saw EVERYTHING that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day”
He is basing his entire argument that YEC are being dogmatic in misinterpreting/misapplying scripture from Paul in Romans chapter 5 for animals dying before the fall. Again, I have no clue what he is talking about, (please note) scripture says, (Genesis 1:31) “And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day”
He claims that we can’t trust the genealogy, because they are wildly incomplete. Ya…that’s not dogmatic.
This part is absolutely hilarious if not sad. This entire video, he tears down scripture or our lack of understanding of it, using words like “untidy”, but then believes he can still hold a high view of scripture’s inerrancy? and goes on to use an “untidy” (see what I did there) example of Augustine being an old earth, but still able to hold a high view of scripture.
He finally makes a claim that I can agree with. This particular discussion is a non-essential and that we should be gracious towards one another.
Therefore I will graciously say that he is not only wrong but also arbitrary. This is what happens when you use your intellect to interpret scripture, rather than the other way around.
Gloria in excelsis Deo…Christ Is Risen!
Christ is Risen Indeed!