@Skoshland, I’m not sure this verse is particularly relevant.
My admonishment to @Reggie_O_Donoghue was that he was seriously laboring over the issues of:
Yes, he believed other gods were real entities, and that the Serpent of Eden was not a snake, but a divine being characterized as a snake … BUT, he had to reject the idea that the “shining one” was a divine being (which leaves us what?), and that he couldn’t make up his mind
trying to decide whether the Nephilim were human/angel hybrids or “something else”?
I am thankful he rejects the idea that demons are Aliens …
@Skoshland, you can imagine how fringe-like all of this sounds, right? Even to Presbyterians or Methodists?
But you throw in Ephesians 6:12 into the mix. I’ll give you a comment or two… Well, maybe just one. Firstly, I do prefer King James for this:
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but
against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places. "
Other translations struggle with the last phrase, “high places”. They usually just flatly say “in heaven”. But if you look at the Greek term for this part of the verse,
ἐπουράνιος, transliterated into English as " epouranios "…
the term has lots of nuances to how it can be used. And I think under the circumstances it is best understood as a reference to “the bad angels” in their heavenly tracks.
This part of Ephesians “screams” Gnosticism… where the Earthly realm is subject to the wicked influences of matter and the rulers of matter.
The Christian and Jewish views about dualism, good & evil, and good and bad angels, come out of Zoroastrianism, which is one of the reasons the “wise men” being gifts come out of the East (Iran).
As a Unitarian, this is much ado about optional metaphysics. Once you start investing in angels, you might as well have a Divine Council and Seraph’s flying around. Good for ratings!