Is there a standpoint from which the creation days in Genesis 1 are described as 24 hours per day?

[jammycakes (James McKay)]

@Burrawang

Thus it is incumbent upon your good self to be truthful and not make the outlandish accusations that you have leveled against me and other Christians who believe the Bible means what it so plainly says in earlier posts under this subject.

I’m sorry Jon, but that’s just deflection. Whataboutism.

If you think that I am in error to dispute a particular young earthist claim, then it is up to you to point out the mistakes in my reasoning. If I have misunderstood the procedures involved, or haven’t taken something into account, it is up to you to explain to me what I am overlooking or have misunderstood. If you think that I am wrong to say that a young earthist teacher is lying, then it is up to you to justify their claims and to explain to me precisely why I am in error to say that they are lying. But you do need to provide evidence, explain precisely what mistakes I am making, and justify any corrections that you bring. You will not do this by simply hand-waving away the points that I make as “outlandish accusations.”

@Burrawang

We should not be surprised when we are attacked for what we believe, as we are not of this world and the world hates those that love the Lord and are His.

It’s one thing to be attacked or persecuted for genuine and honest Christian faith, Jon. It is a different matter entirely to be confronted for sloppy thinking, falsehood, unjustified assertions, or resistance to critique.

@Burrawang

The truth of all being discussed on this Biologos website, is one of worldviews through which an individual interprets the world we live in. As professing Christians, being truthful is a given, or at least it should be a given. We all have an audience of One in Heaven who sees all that we do. We should always be mindful of Him and make our actions, our words and thoughts in alignment with Jesus who showed us how to live.

Jon, my worldview is simply that honest reporting and honest interpretation of accurate information is non-negotiable. Honesty has rules and if you don’t want to be accused of dishonesty then you need to stick to them. If you think that I am not applying the rules fairly, or that the rules that I am applying are invalid, then it is up to you to explain exactly why you think they are unfair or invalid. If you are in any doubt about what rules I am applying or why I am applying them, then it is up to you to ask for clarification.

@Burrawang

If I understand correctly from what you have inferred about yourself on a previous occasion, I’m certainly not sure, but see that it is possible that you once believed as I do now, that evolution is a deceptive unfalsifiable lie, devoid of any real supporting evidence and that belief in eons of the deeptime billions of years is just a modern myth that sets itself up against the truth of real creation about 6,000 Earth years ago as the Bible so clearly informs us through simple addition of the provided genealogies.

I’ve explained what I’ve changed my position on here:

What have you changed your theology on?

What I’ve had to rethink the most—and what’s given me a lot of angst in the process—has been the role of facts, reason, science, evidence, learning, academia and the like. This is something that I’ve ended up rethinking twice. The other Christians who I know fall into a pretty wide spectrum. Some of them are well educated and responsible, but others at the other end of the scale are thoroughly anti-intellectual. Some of them take the line that facts are of the devil, that reason is the enemy of…

Bottom line: I’ve learned the hard way, through painful experience, that not taking mainstream science seriously is simply not an option. I’ve learned the hard way that science has rules and honesty has rules, and that not sticking to the rules has consequences. The change that I’ve made has been is simply to tighten my standards and to insist that the rules be adhered to by anyone trying to challenge a scientific theory, evolution included. If you want to try to make a case that evolution is a “deceptive unfalsifiable lie,” then that’s up to you, but I expect you to stick to the rules while doing so.