Hello Mitch and James,
Thanks @dlc for the helpful info you gave.
For you, Mitch.
Aren’t there good entitlements? Of course I enjoy entitlements as a Christian! I’m happy to be entitled to peace and joy unspeakable and a 24-7 hotline (prayer) that’s never busy on the other end! Most importantly, I enjoy the life of the redeemed and the grace without which it’s impossible for anyone to be saved. Don’t you? Don’t you enjoy being entitled to friendship with Him that’s closer than a brother whose presence only brings peace? He’s a friend one would much desire for others to know. I could go on and on. What’s wrong with these entitlements, please? Material entitlements are no comparison to God’s great grace!
Having called yourself a Christian, what drove you into condemning yourself for enjoying the above? Did you mean it? What were you drinking?
As for the rest of your post, you know better about us Christians than to make all of those accusations! Should all of man’s sins be blamed only on us? We are not enemies of science. What do you think of one that continually accuses the other guy?
One way to misinform is to leave out much necessary information about an issue. So were we misinformed for a long time about the crusades. Although I’m not happy with all done during the crusades, have you considered any possible reason they may have been necessary? Attacks against and enslavement of Christians were a constant threat and were rampant in Europe and someone was needed to defend. Hence the crusades.
For you, James,
Thanks again very much, @dlc for the helpful info!
James, you are correct that even the quantity of water shown in the ancient lakes was insufficient for carving the Grand Canyon. Zero volts deliver zero power for work. But the height of Bruce Canyon, part of the floor of the ancient Grand Lake was is at about 6kv - uh- I mean 6,000 feet! That amounts to much “voltage” to push that huge amount of current! Otherwise the Grand Canyon would have been impossible and the lakes probably would have been still there today. High volumes of high speed, unimpeded water is capable of gigantic damage! Is the word “gigantic” sufficient? Hundreds of square miles of land were removed from the Kalbab plateau in addition to that removed to form the Grand Canyon during that huge downhill flow!
Think of the Oroville Dam Spillway failure that occurred in California. We’re talking about water against concrete on the spillway! But a flow on the scale of the emptying of the lakes moved huge boulders.
The best scenario that supports the latest theory of the formation of the Grand Canyon occurred at Mt. St. Helens. Not only a miniature version of the Grand Canyon, but also a similar scenario to the petrified forest was created over a short time because of a huge flow of water from molten snow atop the mountain due to heat from the volcanic activity. Rock only breaks when bent. But bent strata in stone shows that it was soft during the bending. So is such found near the Grand Canyon. In addition, why are parts of trees found through layers of strata?
If I should consider your objection based on the view of the Horseshoe Curve as a meander, I would have a problem! Aren’t meanders products of growth over time? Why isn’t the material in the center of the bend smooth from the growth? Based on my little bit of knowledge, the center terrain that’s as high as and similar to the surrounding terrain makes it hard for me to call it a true meander. Why otherwise even if I consider the possible explanations I read based on long periods of time. There are other factors that caused the bends. There’s a bend in the river that’s sharper than the Horseshoe Curve caused by the terrain.