I think that is a gross mischaracterization of at least some of us who know that our adoption cannot be revoked.
It is a lifelong process. We could revisit the discussion between @Edgar and me about the significance of perseverance. @mitchellmckain was involved too, for a while, if I recall. You were involved in Monergism vs Synergism.
That statement wasn’t intended as any kind of poke about revokability. I was only taking issue with the notion that it isn’t an ongoing process.
Yes, thanks for the clarification.
They just are. It doesn’t really impact me at all. Why are there so many dfifferent styles of cars? Types of music, galaxies, stars?
Religion holds no interest for me. In fact, religion is repulsive.
Have you read C.S. Lewis’ Mere Christianity? Quite a bit of the book addresses this question. It’s a very worthwhile read. He makes many points on this topic but perhaps most famously he uses the ‘mad, bad or God’ argument: Lewis's trilemma - Wikipedia.
The one existed the other not. The first ones followers died brutal deaths claiming theyve seen him ressurected the others did not. Polytheism is scientificaly impossible meaning that for it to hold truth the universe must have existed since the dawn of time(spoilers it had a begining).
I wont get into the Hindu theology as some said here. The arguments that abkve users made like “many Hindus choose to worship one deity” are kinda pointless because everys Hindus deity comes from basically fairytales.
Yeahhhh. He missed out myth. And nuances on ‘mad’ and ‘bad’.
In many cases I’d call an irrelevant conclusion fallacy, as most of the time I see this question brought up is as a counter to arguments showing god is consistent with science, but that question is irrelevant to the debate.
Now in the cases in which it not, the answer will depend on the question. If the question is “why are their so many religions?”, well the answer is quite simple, if as the bible claims we are creatures of spirit then it makes sense that we would seek out that spirituality and their for the many religions would be an expected result not an anomaly, in fact the opposite would present an anomaly that would have to be explained.
Now the more relevant question “why follow Christianity?”. Well ultimately its going to come down to personal revelation.
I do think that their are some religions that can be proven wrong. For example, the polytheistic religions in my opinion are in consistent with what we observe of the universe, since each god has his own domain you’d expect each domain to behave differently and their for rules of physics to be inconsistent across space and time, yet what we observe is consistency across space and time of the law of physics. it is in fact one of the core tenets of science.
But this is not something I’m confident can be applied to every religion, it be hard to disprove islam on the bases of science especially since a we share large portion of our philosophy in particular when related to sciences. So ultimately, it going to come down to personal revelation as I don’t think their is an argument that show irrefutably to Christianity and even if their is their probably isn’t enough time in a life time to study them all.
Forget about religion for a sec - what about the possibility that a God exists? Do you find that idea repulsive too?
You can believe in God (as in, a supernatural Creator) without belonging to any religion.
As far as I know, only in the Judeo-Christian religions does God tell mankind that he loves them. Sounds like a good starting point.
To me, it is so extraordinarily clear that Jesus is God, it is beyond my comprehension how anyone who learns the basics about him, could think othrewise.
Of course, that is a figure of speech because I do know. It is just that it’s so impossible that He did what they claimed and lived as they did if what they conveyed wasn’t true. You, anyone, cannot make up stuff so totally absurd, so far removed from reality, and proclaim it to be true, unless it is true.
Sounds like you’re a Christian. Sorry, when you said you find “religion” repulsive, I thought you might be an atheist - glad to hear that you’re not.
As for me, I’m Catholic. I don’t find my religion “repulsive” - on the contrary, I find Catholicism to be a beautiful religion and and I’m totally in love with it. And I wasn’t always a Catholic - I was once a very anti-Catholic Protestant.
I’m not a Catholic - but am now an admirer of much about Catholicism. I’m curious - do you find it frustrating that there seems to be such a (I would say ‘healthy’) variety of opinions within the Catholic fold? For example, I’m a big admirer of Bishop Robert Barron and his online ministry (“Word on Fire”), but I gather you would find his (and the Pope’s) attitudes towards science (evolution in particular) to be problematic?
Glad to hear that!
I’d never heard of Bishop Robert Barron, but I will look him up - thanks.
I have no problem with the Pope or a Bishop accepting “evolution”. Catholics are free to reject “evolution” and believe that the earth was created 6000 years ago, if they want to. And after all, the Pope might be correct - whatever he refers to as “evolution” might be the truth.
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It appears to me that the spirit of God has opened someones understanding:)
Our brother Paul told once in Athens that ‘that they would seek God, if perhaps they might feel around for Him and find … So having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now proclaiming to mankind …’ (Acts17: 27,30). This was just the record of one speach held by Paul but seems to point to the idea that humans have a tendency to search for God or gods. If they have not been told about the true God, it’s natural that there pops up all kinds of religions.
We don’t know much of God, He is so much greater than what we can imagine. Therefore it is crucial to ask what God has informed us and expects of us, how can we find peace and reconciliation with God? I think this is the point that separates the religions and faiths to more or less right vs. wrong.
I don’t think that Odin could be Yahweh for Norwegians. The demands and expectations of this entity fall far away from what Yahweh would be expected to proclaim. Afterlife as a brave warrior in Odins hall does not sound anything like Yahweh would have told. Feasting, fighting and killing every day until the day of Ragnarök, the final fight where almost everyone dies and the world is destroyed. Wolf Fenrir will eat Odin during the fight. There is a kind of happy end after Ragnarök, a new start of the world after Odin and other great gods, heroes and monsters have died, but it has been claimed that this happy end has been added to the story later, after christianity spread to Norway.
How do Christians deal with the problem of many Christian religions? Let alone any others.