Ask about his wellbeing and that of his family. Ask about his life story. Just nod and smile and say nothing in response to matters of religion apart from open questions and encouragement. Or say nothing. At all.
As a YEC, there are some things you don’t talk about over Christmas dinner or with family and friends. If he and you would like to discuss origins or politics by email, that would be more the way to go if you can both discuss it civilly. Of course you can agree to disagree and let the matter drop. Keep studying.
Exactly. I always showed an interest in Muslim colleagues’ religious activities, learned the correct terms, greetings and expressions, shared their food, never ate in front of them during Ramadan. I have been welcomed in the masjid. They are as much saved in the faithfulness of Christ as any other fundamentalist.
I guess it depends. Many people started out doubting it and changed their minds. But most people won’t.
I recently joined a Facebook group, some kind of creationist group that is predominantly, almost completely YEC.
I am pretty quick to block people. I’ve blocked like 4 in 24 hours. I’ve been told I’m going to hell like 15 times lol. I choose to respond. I don’t respond because I don’t think they are going to change their mind. I respond because I know there are young adults who face these same evil people in their churches and look for answers and so I do it because I hope that it will help someone reading through it.
If I was you, I would go to the dinner and I would sneak in cool tidbits about biology and evolution the entire meal. I get annoyed easily, but I don’t get angry easily. I’ll use my love for theology and nature as a way to funnel psychic vampirism at them lol. This last section was mostly just a joke. For me it depends on the people. If I dislike everyone there I won’t go. If I am friends with them and dislike one person I’ll go and I’ll be myself and that includes talking about things I enjoy. Normally in those situations they will simply ( by they I mean these anti science Pharisees ) emotionally exhaust themselves. You just have to remain calm and in control of the conversation and have fun with those you love.
Doubting what? Nobody changes their mind. The conversion rate from one faith to another is about 1:1000. YEC is a faith position, which has nothing to do with the all-saving faithfulness of Christ of course. Shared by Christians and Muslims along with damnationism. I don’t know what fundamentalist and folk Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists believe; whatever their foundation myths say I suppose. Minds are changed however. Mine was. But it’s rare.
I agree with you on this point. YEC is a matter of faith because origins and past events outside historical ones are ultimately unproveable. That also applies to naturalism, old earth creation and evolution. Fortunately, there was one eyewitness to creation. Yeshua.
I’m pretty sure that you would agree that this is a fossil of a fish. I am pretty sure that you would also agree that it was, in fact, once a fish. It doesn’t take a “naturalist” or an “old earth” or an “evolutionary” viewpoint to see this, and you don’t have to have “been there to see it happen.”
I hope you get the point here. The “were you there?” argument is a lie. Origins and past events outside historical ones are not ultimately unproveable. Not having been there may mean we can’t figure out everything about the past, but it does not mean that we can’t figure out anything about the past.
And I’m sorry, but the evidence that the earth is 4.5 billion years old is every bit as robust as the evidence that this fossil of a fish was indeed once a fish.
Aye, it often feels like that round here Mi. We even agree disagreeably. Thanks for clarifying on the subject in doubt. The certainties of dead faith trump the reasonable doubts of live science every time.
Have you ever read how many unsolved crimes there are? Even with videotapes, fingerprints, DNA and other clear evidence, it is a wonder any get solved at all. In many cases, it takes a major mistake, such as telling someone else who informs on them, that gets the criminal caught.
Why is that not irrelevant and sidestepping the question? That does nothing to disprove the validity and importance of forensic evidence. Did anyone make a claim that it solved all murder investigations?
Yes, but that’s just an assumption. It’s just an interpretation. How do you know it was a fish? And how do you know it lived and died at some point? Were you there?
I hope you get the point here. The “were you there?” argument simply doesn’t work.
And what kind of date stamp do you expect? This?
Just because you don’t see a visual indication of age on that particular fossil, that doesn’t mean that there are no indications of age of any kind whatsoever on any other fossil or rock formation. Igneous and metamorphic rocks do come with timestamps. Ones called zircons for starters.
I’ll discuss reconciling an old earth with Genesis if you can discuss reconciling a young earth with Deuteronomy 25:13-16:
¹³Do not have two differing weights in your bag — one heavy, one light. ¹⁴Do not have two differing measures in your house — one large, one small. ¹⁵You must have accurate and honest weights and measures, so that you may live long in the land the Lᴏʀᴅ your God is giving you. ¹⁶For the Lᴏʀᴅ your God detests anyone who does these things, anyone who deals dishonestly.
And no, don’t give me any bovine effluent about “taking it out of context.” Those verses apply to every context. End of story. No exceptions, no excuses. Especially to science, which is all about what accurate and honest weights and measures look like in the first place.