Does the Great Pyramid of Giza convey a mathematical prophecy?

[heymike3]

To be honest, it’s nice to see how excited you are about this fascinating subject. And I can’t blame you for finding a deeper meaning in the mathematical symbols. It is such an inescapable part of human nature to find meaning and purpose outside of ourself. I also like how you are open to being wrong where that possibility exists and optimistic for the future.

Best Regards

[Bill_II]

@DrinoTheFly

They inherited it from a lost civilization who completed a cycle of existence, and they took their knowledge to their graves.

So you want to ignore all of the actual evidence and go for the Atlantis idea.

What do you think of von Daniken’s ideas? Or Velikovsky?

[DrinoTheFly (Drino)]

Bill, I never said anything about Atlantis, and I would like you to explain what evidence you claim I am ignoring. Can you please explain why you make these claims?

[DrinoTheFly (Drino)]

By the way, von Daniken is a charlatan, and Velakovski’s ideas are farfetched.

[Christy (Christy Hemphill)]

@DrinoTheFly

How can we say that these ancient people could not have known about future events by using mathematical equations, when you had said it yourself that planetary movements, or a comet’s trajectory etc. can be calculated?

Because like I said at first, math doesn’t predict future events. Calculating things based on physics is not the same thing as predicting the future. Things like weather predictions are calculated probabilities. But even with all our technology and advanced mathematical modeling capabilities, we can’t calculate probabilities with any accuracy for weather more than ten days out because there are too many variables in the system.

@DrinoTheFly

Also, we can calculate weather patterns months, or even years ahead.

This isn’t true. We can calculate probabilities and make climate models based on generalizations and trends over time. We cannot predict the future and say when and where a hurricane will develop next year.

Math is not magical and it has limitations. There is no way that ancients could have used math to predict the future in some kind of calculation because there are too many variables involved in the trajectory of human history. See chaos theory.

@DrinoTheFly

My theory just remains that. A theory and not a proven fact, and is just one of many other theories out there that try to make sense of these fantastic and mind bending structures.

It’s not really a theory though, it’s just an imaginative guess. Good theories are based on observable evidence and make testable predictions. Yours doesn’t. It says, “look, numbers do cool things” and then makes some wild assertions about secret messages in the numbers you have linked to pyramids that supposedly encode information about future world wars and tsunamis. That is pretty much the definition of pseudoscience. You are using mathematical or scientific sounding jargon to make untestable assertions not grounded in reality.

[T_aquaticus]

@DrinoTheFly

Christy, even the message you had just sent me now, is encoded by algorithm. Mathematics can be used to convey messages, and the military uses encoded messages to communicate high secrecy information since the time of Julius Caesar, or even before that.

Mathematics can also be used to combine numbers in arbitrary ways to arrive at any answer you want.

[heymike3]

Now that you mention it, I have a sneaking suspicion there may be a pattern to the number π. It’s ever so curious to wonder when 999 million nines occur in sequence

And that’s just in base 10 numerals.

“I know the pieces fit… To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication”

[Mervin_Bitikofer]

@heymike3

I have a sneaking suspicion there may be a pattern to the number π.

That is fascinating to me too. It also fascinates me that it is a 100% statistical certainty that your 999 million nines actually are there somewhere. Meaning also that all of scriptures (any version you pick), the entire corpus of Shakespeare … all of that can be found there too. There is no finite sequence that can’t be found there if we just had the computational power to look far enough!

Let’s say (as is presupposed for any sequence of decimal digits of any irrational number) that there is no pattern to be found. Would that make the digits of pi random? Not really … and yet … indistinguishable from random too, as far as we’re concerned.

[Bill_II]

@DrinoTheFly

I never said anything about Atlantis

You said

@DrinoTheFly

Even the Sphinx show signs of water erosion.

And consulting the all knowing Wikipedia says

The Sphinx water erosion hypothesis is a fringe claim, contending that the Great Sphinx of Giza and its enclosing walls eroded primarily due to ancient floods or rainfalls, attributing their creation to Plato’s lost civilization of Atlantis over 11,500 years ago.

@DrinoTheFly

I would like you to explain what evidence you claim I am ignoring.

See Wikipedia Wikipedia - Sphinx water erosion hypothesis

[DrinoTheFly (Drino)]

@DrinoTheFly

But as I said earlier, I do agree with you that a future event such as world wars, the next tsunami or who will be the next president cannot be mathematically predicted and I don’t even try to classify such predictions as pseudo science, because that is just plain rubbish.

Like I said, Christy, I agree with you on some of your criticism, and I respect your point of view.