The other day I had a discussion on a YouTube comment section with an atheist on the Big Bang and fine tuning. His last comment was "How can you believe in God and know about science?"
I was like “Really?”
Anyways. Most of these people who have a “scientific atheism” can only say one of these as an argument:
-“Believing in magical sky fairies automatically makes you an imbecile” (one of them actually told me that)
-“God did not create man, man created God”
-“Religion was invented to oppress the poor/ignorant”
-“God is just scientific ignorance that gets smaller as science progresses”
-(Any quote by Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and their favourite, Neil deGrasse Tyson)
I know. The other day I had a discussion with someone who defended the oscillating universe theory as “evidence” against God. I showed him evidence against the oscillating universe (and we ended up having a 35 comment discussion).
I mentioned the BGV theorem as evidence against eternal space-time, he mentioned Guth when he said he doesn’t know if the universe had a beginning. I responded with Vilenkin’s comments on it. After some comments, he said “Why don’t Vilenkin and Guth believe in a Creator? Because they have better explanations.”
I told him that most atheist scientists (at least those I’ve seen) were already atheists. He replied by saying (prepare to laugh) “They are atheists because they are scientists and they don’t accept anything without evidence.”
I mentioned that study time ago on another discussion.
I know, but they will always quote this.
I try telling them that, but all of these “atheists who believe in science” prefer to swallow what a bunch of total nobodies who know nothing about science like Dross and Dalas (two Hispanic YouTubers who used to make content on atheism, but they stopped long ago, and Dross even said the Higgs boson proves there is no God) who say “Atheism is supported by a great amount of scientific evidence (they never mention any) while all religions are just primitive fairy tales that have been debunked again and again,”
I was like that 6 years ago.
They constantly try to turn them into evidence for atheism (and then they are the ones who say theists “hijack” science). The origin of the “inflation argument against theism” (I invented that name) on the Hispanic community goes back to this video, which is now quoted as being 100% accurate.
José L. Crespo (the guy on the video) responds to a priest who tried to show belief in God is rational. The priest uses the cosmological argument on his video, and Crespo responded by saying that inflation “competes with divine action.” Even though he says it has not been proven, his atheist followers don’t hesitate to use this as an argument. I have repeatedly told them that inflation has not been proven, but they are not interested in knowing.
Since that video came out, people keep posting extracts from it as “arguments” and they obviously like to include their biases (“science joins people of everywhere, while religion (here comes something nasty I’m not going to include)”, “inflation competes with divine action”, etc).