David Barton, the well-known evangelical Christian historian, of Wallbuilders, who has a history of rejecting peer-review in scholarship, is now supporting the work of Dr. Theresa Deisher, of the Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institute, claiming that cells from aborted babies are currently being used to produce newer vaccines.
The following quote from Dr. Deisher is from a transcript from David Barton’s show, April 8, 2019, found here:
There were two conferences recently in Rome. One was the end of January, and one was just about two weeks ago I guess. So the first conference was held by the Italian Society of Biologists. They were very concerned about vaccines that have literally not had any correct safety testing of them.
They became concerned when they actually went and tested some of these vaccines to see what actually was in them. At times could not find the viral component that was supposed to be there but found some very concerning contaminants. And the second conference was just held recently in Rome right outside of the Vatican.
Again, I was talking about not just the safety of the vaccines but the ethics and the use of the bodies of aborted babies to develop cell lines that are used to manufacture some vaccines.
Later in the program, we have this interchange with Rick Green, presumably of Wallbuilders, and Dr. Deisher:
I saw the part of the deposition with the doctor that admitted to using aborted babies in his vaccine research and apparently from that people are now willing to ask more questions. Has that been a catalyst for this? I forget the guy’s name but Kinner Plotkin or something like that?
Plotkin. Stanley Plotkin. I think that it has been a catalyst in many areas but particularly because he actually admitted that the babies in many cases are still alive when they are dissected. He admitted that in a court of law.
Now that’s another thing we’ve been working to educate people about and actually, I worked with David Daleiden was the one who told him you know that I think they’re harvesting these babies alive. They have to be, to be getting the cells that they’re getting for this research. When David first contacted me to get some advice about what was going on.
According to pediatricians that I know, there were two aborted babies from the 1960s or early 1970s, that had their cell tissue used to help generate several cell lines, that have been used to create vaccines over the years. But those abortions happened at least 45 years ago, and so whatever cells are used in today’s vaccines, only have trace material derived from those original abortions.
But the claim made by Dr. Deisher suggests that vaccine makers are illegally using cells from RECENT abortions to help generate vaccines today.
In Barton’s defense, he is not arguing that parents should not vaccinate their children. However, he is suggesting that the potential association of current vaccines with recent abortions would lend support for religious exemptions to vaccination, based on a pro-life moral argument. Whether or not religious exemptions for vaccination are OK (I happen to believe that they are), I have serious questions about the research Dr. Deisher is using to make these claims, that might wrongly inform the conscience of such religious objectors, all in the name of evangelical Christian faith.
Dr. Deisher has a Ph.D. in Molecular and Cellular Physiology from Stanford University.
I think this is an issue that should be in the wheelhouse of Biologos, as the outbreaks of measles currently in several states, is a major public health concern. If the non-Christian population develops the idea that misinformed Christians are largely and wrongly responsible for these measles outbreaks, it could prove harmful to the cause of spreading the Gospel.
This goes beyond debunked claims that vaccination is linked to autism, claims that Deisher apparently nevertheless supports, despite the current consensus. I would rather stick with the abortion-vaccine argument for now.
Dr. Deisher’s summary of her views are found here:
I would agree with the Vatican letter from 2005 that efforts should be made to create cell lines, free from any trace of aborted babies, but that risks associated with NOT vaccinating children far exceeds any moral concerns, linking abortions from years ago with vaccination today.
Does anyone know if there is any credibility to Dr. Deisher’s work?