Connections between New Calvinism and YEC

No, I haven’t. Don’t forget that I’m provincial and not well read. :wink:

That’s the 1 star review from TGC… I don’t agree with Xtian Nationalism… but I do want to see if the critics are right about racism in the book… that for me would be a massive hole… like a cosmic plasma beam that slices stars in half :sunglasses:

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Trevin Wax gives it a thumbs up, so that’s a plus.

Stephen Wolfe’s podcast host Thomas Achord got fired as principal from his Christian school when it came out that he was writing for Nazi magazines and websites under a pseudonym and publishing terribly racist pro-Nazi rants on Twitter using a pseudonymous account. So what do his friends in this crowd do when this comes out? Do they say, “That’s terrible! We denounce Nazis!” Nah, they have a go-fund me and raise over $100,000 for the poor guy who “got cancelled” right before Christmas.

Do you have a source for this? Because I’m not getting this tone from DeYoung

But before moving on from this point, it’s worth mentioning how Wolfe leaves a number of serious questions unanswered. Wolfe often decries the mental habit, forced upon us by secular elites, that makes Christian nationalists feel the need to prove they’re not racists or kinists or xenophobes. Wolfe refuses to play by those rules (456–57). I understand the frustration. But surely in a 500-page book, it wouldn’t have been misplaced, or kowtowing to the spirit of the age, for Wolfe to make clear exactly what he is and isn’t arguing for (especially when he quotes approvingly from Samuel Francis on VDARE.com).

Again, these accusations need a source. You say these things like they are common knowledge.

Yikes… yeah that’s pretty horrible

Wolfe claims he is not a kinist, so I should have been clearer on that. But like DeYoung notes, he repeatedly dog whistles to those people and then backs down a notch when pressed.

And no, he blocked me on Twitter. He “clarified” he doesn’t believe interracial marriage is a sin on an individual level, he just thinks it’s bad for society.

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They were common knowledge on Christian Twitter, it was all people talked about for days. (I quit Twitter in September) I’m not going to compile a list of sources for you, you can waste your own time with that cesspool. You don’t have to believe me.

You are right about that. You don’t need to source anything. It was a lot to take in for me.

Pretty crazy about this Achord guy. The more you get to know some people, the less normal they are.

I still don’t think Wilson is racist. I listened to his sermons for a couple years. He is the guy after all, from whom I learned that because of the Trinity, unity and diversity are ultimately real. That cults tend to all dress the same because they are strictly unitarian :grin:

A year or so after I pretty much dismissed a comment Wilson made about the pro-slavery apologists having the better arguments, I heard Mark Noll echo that same thought as one of his great struggles to understand rightly as a historian.

I think you should look into orthodox mysticism. God and Jesus are unknowable. It’s what anchored my agnostic mind into theism

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This still feels like a massive exaggeration. The ESS folks would never ever say that a woman is unequal to a man, or a wife to her husband.

That is not what Jesus says.

“All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. Matthew 11:27

A quick word search and scanning the results will also reveal that the epistles agree.

I found a youtube video that has in its description:

On today’s Equipping You in Grace show,

Dave and Owen Strachan talk about helping Christian parents and pastors help children and Christians develop a biblical worldview, what mature Christian conversations look like, along with his new book, Reenchanting Humanity: A Theology of Mankind (Christian Focus, 2020).

What you’ll hear in this episode

  • • Why anthropology is the major issue of the 21st century

  • How pastors and parents can help children develop a biblical worldview that stands against evolution and for a biblical worldview.

  • • The best way for Christians to respond to the spiritualizing of sexuality.

  • • How Christian couples can help equip their children on the subject of transgenderism.

  • • Why we don’t drift into holiness in the Christian life. • The purpose of family worship centered on the Word of God.

  • • Some tips on being intentional in family worship.

  • • How we as Christians help those transgenderism, a transpersonal worldview.

  • • What neopaganism is and how it is a major competitor to the gospel today.

  • • Using technology to serve our work but not to rule our work.

  • • Why recovering a biblical understanding of patience is critical to having mature Christian conversation and discipleship.

  • • Biblical desire, union with Christ, and mortification of sin.

  • About the Guest Owen Strachan is Associate Professor of Christian Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Kansas City, Missouri. He is the Director of the Center for Public Theology at MBTS and author of ‘Reenchanting Humanity: A Theology of Mankind’.

Given what i know about reformed souther baptists generally, i have this feeling the discussion im hearing in the first 5 minutes of the youtube podcast suggests a very literal biblical theology is front and centre in Owens mind. I am wagering he is a YEC, however, i will listen on and see if i can know for sure one way or the other.

UPDATE…

so after listening to Owen on the podcast…he makes the comment that leading Evangelical voices believe that Transgenderism is categorized by the notion that it may be a disability.

I would say given his views on LGBT and Transgenderism…he appears to take the Genesis biblical account of creation literally. He would therefore likely be YEC.

It’s in the passage, if you are taking that literally word for word them those words “no one knowa the father except the son” the latter part where the son reveals to the believer of the son to me is self contradicting. It might be that the translation is off as the eastern churches view this differently. It might be that this forum (I’m not saying this in a deragotory way either) is mainly an American Protestant dominated platform. Because the answers I have read havnt been particularly satisfying. I’m in Australia and a highly secular country, my town is 60% atheist. But after doing research I find it odd that Atheism rises in protestant dominant areas whereas in catholic/orthodox countries/communities seems to be holding on a bit better , France being the exception with Spain’s socialist side pushing that number up aswell. I’m an agnostic catholic leaning towards theism but this forum pulls me back to agnostic., yet when I read and listen to catholic and eastern church or priest view it pulls me towards Atheism.

agnostic Catholocism? How does that work exactly?

Wouldnt you agree that Gods nature is revealed to us in His Word (the bible)? We know that God is invisible, but unknowable??

Surely the Gospel is the answer to the question of knowing God and His nature?

To be fair, they believed it was a woke campaign to take down Wolfe’s recently published book. Talk about some remarkable timing!

Before Achord’s follow-up statement, Wolfe also pledged all his royalties until Christmas to support Achord’s family, and promoted an online fundraiser for the family, which has received upwards of $23,500 in pledges as of Tuesday afternoon.

Wolfe has since acknowledged Achord’s admission, and said he also repudiates the “offensive tweets.”

Yeah, they are careful about what they say. I’m going to do the biblical thing and judge trees by their fruit. What they actually believe is pretty evident in the way they treat people and in what they don’t say.

No. Sometimes there is no both sides, and the both-sidesing of Nazi and Nazi sympathizers is evil, Mike.

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