Can God author a text with errors?

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Can God Author a Text with Errors?

“Sometimes fun is poked at the people who confess that they believe whatever the Bible says. “Do you really believe that the whale swallowed Jonah?” was the question put to one friend of mine, and she answered, ‘I’d believe what the Bible says, even if it said that Jonah swallowed the whale!’ One hopes that the answer was given tongue in check.” [Marshall, Inspiration p. 9]

Can a text written or inspired by God contain errors? In order to answer this, we need to clarify what it means for something to be written by God and define what an error actually is. For the latter, I tend to think of an error as only applying to what the Bible intends to teach. Genre is extremely important in this framework. For example, if the Bible intends to teach a person named Jonah literally spent 3 days in the belly of a giant fish, and this event did not happen, the Bible would be in error. But even if the details of the story were fictional, no error is found if the purpose of the book of Jonah was not to narrate history, but instead us give us a dramatic story teaching is it fool’s errand to run from God as his purposes are unavoidable and will be fulfilled whether we comply or resist. I am not choosing a side, only pointing out the importance of genre for identifying potential errors. The friend mentioned in the quote above by Marshall certainly thinks the genre of Jonah is some form of factual, narrative history. I will discuss genre considerations more fully in another article on this website. I want to dig into the issue of how a text written by God or one that is inspired by God can be understood to have errors.

If we believe God sat down and wrote the Bible from His divine, heavenly perspective and its genre is historical narration, if discrepancies were to arise, then of course we should give priority to its truth claims over all others, including those of science and archaeology. Any stories that appear outlandish to us or inconsistent with external data would have to be accepted if they had such a heavenly stamp on them because the reliability of God is beyond reproach. The first commandment tells us to love and put God before everything else, and that includes our children and spouses, let alone archaeology and science. In this framework, Jonah could have swallowed the whale. “God said it, that settles it.”

We know the Bible is "unashamedly geocentric” and seemingly teaches that the sun (not the earth) stood still (Joshua 10:12) and there are several passages declaring the latter immutable (Psalm 93:1). Calvin famously defended his geocentric ideology against new Copernican ideas:

"We will see some who are so deranged, not only in religion but who in all things reveal their monstrous nature, that they will say that the sun does not move, and that it is the earth which shifts and turns. When we see such minds we must indeed confess that the devil possess them, and that God sets them before us as mirrors, in order to keep us in his fear. So it is with all who argue out of pure malice, and who happily make a show of their imprudence. " – Calvin [Biologos Article]

Calvin can be intellectually forgiven here. It is customary for pre-scientific people to embrace pre-scientific ideas, and it takes time for major paradigm shifts to occur in human thinking. Conventional knowledge at the time supported the notion that the sun moved and the earth stood still. Cavin thought both science and scripture was on his side. Calvin was certainly a man of great intelligence though if he made this statement today we could not be so charitable in our appraisal. While the minor historical conflicts between faith and science that happened in the past are often exaggerated, this should serve as a cautionary tale as there seems to be a bit of incorrect scientific background knowledge scattered throughout the Hebrew and Christian Scriptures. Parts of the Bible refer to the four corners of the earth (Is. 11:12), think thoughts come from our kidneys (Psalm 16:7), believe there is a solid firmament or metal dome in the sky (Gen 1:6, Job 37:18), identify the moon as a light like the sun (Gen 1:16), proclaim the earth is immutable and does not move (1 Chron 16:30, Ps 93:1, 96:10, 104:5; Is 45:8), consider the earth flat (Mt 4:8, Dan 4:10-11), thinks stars are small and close enough to the earth they can fall from the sky and land on it (Rev 6:13-16, 8:10; Mt 2:10, 24:29; Dan 8:10), rain and snow are kept in heavenly storehouses (Job 38:22, Ps 135:7), heaven and hell/Sheol are up and down (Isaiah 66:1, Psalm 33:14, Mt 12:40, Eph 4:9). These examples could be multiplied.

This is part of why we do not envision God as writing the Bible from his heavenly perspective. Some places in scripture do claim to be the product of divine dictation (Rev 2:1,8,12; Isa. 38:4-6, etc.) and there are many places that begin with “Thus says the Lord.” But this is not what all of Scripture looks like. Hebrews 1:1 says that God spoke to the prophets “in many and various ways” (e.g. dreams, visions, etc.). If we look at the prologue to Luke (1:1-3) it claims to be the product of human research and careful investigation, not divine dictation. Let us take a look at 1 Corinthians 1:14-16 as an illustrative example:

14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so that no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (I did baptize also the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else.) 17 NRSV

Divisions had arisen in Corinth and Paul (or a secretary) writes he is thankful he had only baptized Crispus and Gaius but quickly remembers he baptized the household of Stephanas and adds in that caveat overriding what he just wrote. The NIV and NRSV put verse 16 in parenthesis. Paul momentarily forgot that he baptized a household, corrected himself and then admitted further ignorance on who else he baptized. This doesn’t look like God writing from a heavenly perspective as He certainly would not forget who Paul baptized. It could be claimed that God allowed the authors to write from their own experiences and perspectives but moved over them to ensure certain things were included and prevented them from making errors. However, it seems odd to me to imagine God as having Paul erroneously list who he baptized only to immediately correct himself.

The Biblical authors had significant autonomy in the words they chose to write. This is even a standard evangelical position. The Bible did not fall from heaven as a completed work. It consists of 73 distinct literary works (67 for Protestants) written by several dozen different authors chronologically spread over roughly a thousand-year time period and separated geographically in some cases by a thousand miles or more. Each book of the Bible is a discrete literary production written and disseminated by human hands in its own life setting. Flesh and blood people composed the Bible and Christians from all backgrounds generally agree with this as these two statements from diverse groups delineate:

The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy:

“We affirm that God in His work of inspiration utilized the distinctive personalities and literary styles of the writers whom He had chosen and prepared. We deny that God, in causing these writers to use the very words that He chose, overrode their personalities.”

The Catholic Church’s Dei Verbum (“Wod of God”):

“In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by Him they made use of their powers and abilities, so that with Him acting in them and through them, they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things which He wanted. . . . “God speaks in Sacred Scripture through men in human fashion.”

Most Christians in general don’t imagine God sat down in heaven and told story of Jesus or wrote the Bible from his divine, “eyewitness” perspective. This partially explains why the text can be less than perfect. Ken Sparks writes:

“Why is the written discourse of a perfect God less than perfect? The most common answer given in our survey is that God has chosen to speak to finite human beings through the context of our finite cultural and social horizons. As a result, he accommodates his speech to those cultural settings, imbibing as he does of our perceptual plusses and minuses. On the plus side are those points where human beings are already getting things right, and on the minus side are those perceptual deficits that God, in his wisdom, chooses to leave alone. But the net result of this divine strategy is revelation— God-given insights that take humanity a step farther in our understanding of things human, and of things divine.” – God’s Word in Human Words

Sparks also goes on to point out the authors of scripture were fallen human beings and wonders if scripture could reflect this:

“The only question that remains, then, is whether God somehow protected or insulated their biblical words from their human fallenness. If he did so, it should be easy to recognize. Scripture would reflect a single, coherent, and consistent God-given view of morals and ethics from Genesis to Revelation. Its words would be free of the sinful vagaries of human authors and would give us the one and only universal ethic of Christ’s teaching. --– God’s Word in Human Words

As I have articulated on this website, I do not think God protected the human authors from all errors. My own view is that God was suggestive rather than coercive when inspiring scripture and viewing the text as a one-and-done event where it was inspired only at some specific time in the past and we just need to interpret it correctly is troublesome. This doesn’t give due diligence to the idea that the Bible is used by God in the here and now to bring people to faith and that without the illuminating light of the Holy Spirit, we would have a far poorer understanding of what it intends to teach. The understanding of scripture that I subscribe to tends to view the inspiration of the Biblical works as something that occurred in the past but is still ongoing. Since God was suggestive rather than coercive, I do not have any issue with errors creeping into the text. I certainly don’t imagine the errors being mistakes on God’s part. They are either human mistakes or limitations due to our “finite cultural and social horizons” that God chooses to speak through. God communicates with us intelligibly and progressively on our level.

The Bible can teach spiritual truth through material falsehood: that is teach theology through ancient frameworks or understandings of the world we now know to be incorrect. Even though the moon (a rock in space) generates no light of its own and only reflects sunlight, can we still not understand Genesis 1:16 as firmly and faithfully teaching that it and all things are the result of God’s creative activity? Instead of narrating a scientific account of how the universe and earth formed, can Genesis not simply be telling us these heavenly bodies that were once worshipped as deities are mere lamps God put in the sky to mark the seasons and He is sovereign over them? In a polytheistic culture where gods were seen as rivals and in competition with one another, this interpretation makes much more sense because it highly doubtful the author of Genesis was trying to tell us there was nuclear fusion occurring in the core of the moon causing it to emit photons that we perceive as light on earth. That makes about as much sense as the Biblical authors being concerned about cars or airplanes, things that simply did not exist at the time. Even if there are no heavenly reservoirs of rain and snow above a solid dome, can we not understand these verses as instilling in us awe and humility as they intend to teach us that God governs the natural processes we lack control of? God meets us sinners where we are, and accommodates his message through familiar images, stories, parables and even in appearance – being born into our world as one of us.

Identifying Errors in the Bible is NOT disagreeing with God.

It is important to stress this final point in closing. If someone wants to argue that God cannot stand behind or speak through a text with errors or material falsehood inside, this is simply one understanding of inspiration. If I subscribe to a theory at odds with this portrait, I am not disagreeing with God, I am disagreeing with how other people understand the Bible. My disagreement is with them, not with God. We should always be humble in this regard and extremely hesitant to confuse our interpretation of scripture with exactly what God says on an issue. Hopefully we are correct, but this distinction is of special importance especially when some believers pit the Bible vs. science and tell us we have to pick one or the other. As Ken Sparks wrote in God’s Word in Human Words:

“Consider this example from a fundamentalist book on biological evolution: ‘If the days of creation [in Genesis 1] are really ‘geologic ages’ of millions of years, then the gospel message is undermined at its foundation because it puts death, disease, thorns and suffering before the Fall. This idea also shows an erroneous approach to scripture—that the Word of God can be interpreted on the basis of fallible theories of sinful people.’ To be sure, the author of this statement has his finger on a potentially significant theological difficulty raised by evolution, namely, that death seems to have entered creation before the fall of humanity. Nevertheless, his understanding of the ideological conflict itself is quite erroneous. Although the author describes the situation as a quarrel between God’s infallible Word and fallible human science, this is an illusion created by the assumption that his interpretation of Scripture is a perfect reflection of “what God says.” In reality, however the conflict is not between the Word of God and human science but between fallible human interpretation of Scripture and fallible human interpretation of nature. By sleight of hand, the author implicitly assumed that his own interpretation of Scripture was infallible, thereby shielding his “infallible” views from the criticisms of modern science.

I would caution my brothers and sister in Christ, based on history, our fallen natures and humility against pitting the gospel or the Bible in an either or vs science. Imagine if Calvin had said, “Either the earth doesn’t move or the Gospel is false.”

Vinnie

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My first immediate reaction to the title of this thread was… “another attempt to limit God and say what He cannot do” … to which my response is that this is an attempt to enslave God with theology and thus to change “God” into a tool of rhetoric and manipulation.

But then I asked myself the following question…

Does the use of imperfect tools (human language is an imperfect tool) mean someone is not the author? The answer is obviously no. Then it really boils down to the foolishness of prohibiting God from using imperfect tools… sort of implies to me the prohibition of God from saving any human beings… LOL

OK… so I ask the following question:

Can God author a text without errors which is even comprehensible to humans?

It is like teaching about the world to a kindergarten class. It requires simplifications which are technically incorrect.

But of course… the OP is essentially making some of the same points I make here.

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I don’t know about that, but it does seem to assume divine authorship of Scripture to a greater or lesser extent. That throws up problems before we start.

I think you have hit the core of the issue.

It seems there is a reluctance to think that Scripture could be human made, despite the fact that it never claims anything else.

Richard

If God can’t use imperfect tools then the whole Bible would be filled with nonsense because he seems to use them all the time in the form of people I have a piece on why I find inerrancy irrelevant or incorrect in the works and this is basically reason seven:

[7] God’s Modus Operandi

Scripture consistently portrays God as employing imperfect humans to do His bidding. Over and over again these humans screw up, sometimes in spectacular fashion. But in the end, God’s will is accomplished despite their shortcomings. Some examples will illustrate this point:

  • · Abraham is twice seen using deception (Gen. 12:10–20; 20:1–18), he sometimes hesitates at God’s promises (Gen 17:17-18), and was going to abandon his concubine and son to death in the desert before God stepped in (Gen 21:8-21). Yet, Abraham also showed great faith and was willing to sacrifice his son Isaac at God’s request. Abraham was not perfect, yet he was good enough for God to use to be the father of many nations. Yet we all know Abraham had enough faith to msacrifice his Son Isaac at God’s request and as Genesis 15:6 tell us, he “believed the LORD, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”
  • · Moses repeatedly complained about God’s calling (Ex 3-4), instead of waiting on the Lord’s deliverance, he murdered an Egyptian and had to flee (Ex 2) and after not trusting the Lord and striking the rock (Num. 20:10–12), he ever made it to the land of milk and honey.
  • · Jacob deceived his father and manipulated his brother Esau into giving him his birthright (Gen. 27). In the end, God renamed him Israel and the twelve tribes of Israel stem from his family.
  • · Jonah ran from God and we all know where that ultimately landed him as far as the tale goes. He was a resistive and reluctant preacher who was hardly redeemed at the end of the book where we find him still very much angry at God’s mercy. Yet through Jonah’s malcontent and half-hearted obedience, the entire pagan city of Ninevah repented and was spared God’s destruction (Jonah 3:5–10).
  • · David is described as “a man after God’s own heart” (1 Sam. 13:14) much to my dismay as I am not a fan. Mainly because he committed adultery with a woman and in order to take her for himself, essentially had her husband sent to the frontline of battle so he would die. Somehow, Moses striking a rock seems mild in comparison. Yet it is the royal line of David that leads to Jesus.
  • · The Disciples were handpicked by Jesus. Yet they fall asleep on the job, repeatedly misunderstand his teachings, argue over who among them is the greatest and when he is arrested they are found to be deserters. Peter, the chief apostle, denied Him three times and Judas betrayed Him to his death.

None of these Biblical figures—even the righteous ones with faith–were perfect but they were sufficient to serve the purpose for which God intended them. If God could use such imperfect humans to accomplish his will, to establish a lasting covenant, to deliver His Laws, to build the nation of Israel and to finally build His Church, why on earth could He not use imperfect scripture? It would be obnoxiously belittling to God to suggest otherwise. The important part for me is that God did not seem to force any or most of these individuals to do what He wanted them to and some of them went in the opposite direction for a time. But in the end, God’s will was done. God is seen throughout scripture as operating through imperfect humans. This doesn’t prove scripture has material imperfections, but it certainly calls into question the necessity and justification for the doctrine of Biblical inerrancy. It also reinforces the dominant theme we have seen throughout this document: God is suggestive, not coercive.

It’s just taking a lot of time to finish with rereads and edits…and being 20+ pages doesn’t help…Id like to. simplify it but I think there is too much hot air inside me for that…

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It is certainly the product of human hands but I don’t think “it never claims anything else” is sustainable.

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. One book in our canon does tell us scripture is God breathed and though it may not be handled as completely immutable or inerrant as moderns sometimes think, it seems to be given great respect and authority throughout.

Vinnie

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Oh give it a rest! That passage is taken out of context to mean something it never did.

Paul told Timothy not to forget his upbringing and teaching. IOW if in doubt, look in Scripture. It will help.

Richard

You said scripture never claims to be anything other than human made. I quoted a verse from scripture that objectively states the exact opposite of what you asserted. Certainly, in historical context, Paul (or whoever wrote it) did not have in mind our entire canon as it did not exist yet, but your claim is objectively false. Being a Christian, I accept the canon and within it, Paul told Timothy specifically:“A ll Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.” Scripture is useful–which is my exact position. The most important part is the verse before though. Scripture makes us wise for salvation in Jesus.

If you have nothing of substance to offer in response to this, you don’t have to bang away at your keyboard with your fingers and argue nothing just because it makes you feel special to be different and contrarian.

Vinnie

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Except that it doesn’t

What more can be said? Taking one or two verses out of context never produces sound theology. Paul would turn in his grave if he knew the ways his words had been misconstrued.

We have been here before
Intentional mistranslation of 2 Tim 3

And many others. It is a well known and fought argument.

Richard

I don’t put too much stock into people arguing over translations on the internet. The only thing that looked credible in that thread is the link to the paper by Wallace. I say that knowing full well some of the difficulties that this set of verses has presented. This is what Stanley Porter (2023) wrote (The Pastoral Epistles A Commentary on the Greek Text --which argues for Pauline authorship btwt).


And here is Scott McKnight’s 2023 New Cambridge Bible Commentary on the Pastorals:**

Faithful continuance is rooted in Timothy’s past instructions because from childhood he has known the sacred writings (cf. 1:5), a common way to refer to the Old Testament among Greek-speaking Jews.

The Apostle lays a foundation for what Christians would form into a doctrine of scripture. His words are all scripture – meaning these Old Testament scriptures – are able (empowered) to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus (:). The gospel-centeredness of the Apostle means he fully endorses the Old Testament as an instrument, even a means, of transformation as fulfilled in Christ Jesus, leading to a

We begin with a repetition: this is about the Old Testament (cf. Rom 15:4) and only derivatively about the New Testament. The diminishment of the Old Testament in seminaries, in preaching, and in ordinary Christian Bible reading must learn to face this text more honestly.

Starting off a thread with the charge of an intentional mistranslation shows me the OP is invested emotionally in the issue somehow.

And I reject that the verse does not apply to the New Testament for Christians. Attempts to atomize every part of the Bible and figure out what some specific culture would have understood x thousand years ago fails to account for the fact that we generally believe the entire Bible was inspired by God and has a canonical dimension.

Vinnie

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That was one thread of many.

The main argument against your view is the one of context that you appear to have ignored.

I am sorry but your view is by no means orthodox and is the start of such false doctrines as inerrancy and sola scriptura.
Scripture is the foundation of Christianity inasmuch as it is the only source of the Gospel but that does not make it God’s words or the fourth part of the Quadrality: Father, Son, Holy Spirit and Scripture. (Scripture being God in written form)
It is not my place to dismantle your faith, but I warn you against trying to dismantle mine or anyone who fails to believe your view about the nature of Scripture.

Richard

You seem to argue against views people don’t have instead of what they actually articulate. I don’t support inerrancy or sola scripture and I have ignored no context. I also do not engage in Bibliolatry. You might want to find a forum filled with conservative Christians so then your assumptions of what they believe would be closer to reality. You mentioning the word “scripture” in a singular sense tells me I can make canonical statements and extensions of 2 Tim3:17 in that context. Choose your words more carefully if you only interpret the Christian canon as distinct literary works not inspired by God in any special sense.

You apparently don’ know what my view is and I am certainly not worried about you dismantling my faith.

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That depends on what you mean by inspired. I will admit that i gave the extreme understanding, if that is not so, then I apologise.
However, i dispute your claim about ignoring context. Scripture is about God and the human understanding of it, as such it is sacred not sacrosanct. (IMHO)

Richard

First, “inspired”.

Clearly the answer is ‘yes’. Humans are fallible, and a text that is only ‘inspired’, not dictated, is subject to that fallibility.

Second, “written”.

I can write text that contains deliberate errors: Germany is the capital of Ouagadougou.

It would be counter to almost all ideas of God’s abilities for me to be able to do something that God cannot. So again the answer would be ‘Yes’. God can, but perhaps God might not do so.

P.S. Based on a discussion on infallibility elsewhere a long time ago, there is also the possibility that if God did write something with an error in it, reality would immediately be changed so that it matched what God wrote. So if God wrote that Germany is the capital of Ouagadougou the Burkina Faso government would discover that their currency had been renamed.[1] This seems incredibly far-fetched.


  1. Or maybe they would think their currency had always been called the Germ.. ↩︎

The key question for me was not could he, but rather would he, in the context that I accepted the Bible as truth, and if you read texts like Psalm 19 and Romans 1:20 that indicates creation reflects the nature of God, would he make creation intentionally deceptive. Or is it just more likely I was reading the Bible wrong. I decided on the latter.
To address your actual question, I would agree with those who see the Bible as inspired, not dictated, and with all the human limitations and failings that brings. Yet, somehow, God has preserved the essence of his desired message through it.

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I think this is a philosophical question but I was just going more along the lines of how can we reconcile a God who is truth and goodness itself, with material imperfections in scripture and maintain belief in inspiration? The stance of most evangelical Christians is probably close to:

Stand to Reason: Can Scripture err? If the Bible is from God, the answer is no. God doesn’t lie, he doesn’t make mistakes, and he doesn’t mislead. If the Bible is the Word of God, it carries his authority, his truthfulness, and his power.

Or

Defending Inerrancy%2520and%2520it%2520refers,The%2520rest%2520is%2520detail.); First, it is contrary to the nature of God as truth that He would accommodate to error. Michael Bird states the issue well, though he wrongly limits God to speaking on only redemptive matters. Nevertheless, he is on point with regard to the nature of inerrancy in relation to God. He writes: “God identifies with and even invests his own character in his Word…. The accommodation is never a capitulation to error. God does not speak erroneously, nor does he feed us with nuts of truth lodged inside shells of falsehood” (Bird, 159). He cites Bromley aptly, “It is sheer unreason to say that truth is revealed in and through that which is erroneous” (cited by Bird, 159).

The resolution is probably asking “inspired for what?” and I think I should probably add a paragraph to that effect. I am process of discussing that elsewhere.

If God wanted to leave us a completely accurate and factual record of events, we would have one. I think 2 Tim 3 provides us with a better purpose for scripture: lead us to Christ and train us in righteousness to do good works. My thinking:

The Bible is good enough to serve the purposes for which God intends it, but what might those purposes be? To mediate the sacred and train us in righteousness. Scripture is only infallible insofar as it is used by God for those purposes. The Bible does not save people. God uses scripture to bring people to truth and save them. God saves people through Jesus, not cellulose with ink on it from a human publishing company. The Bible is a tool or instrument both inspired by and used by God. In my view 2 Timothy 3:15-17 summarizes what the entire Bible is and does: sacred writings there to “instruct [us] for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus” and to “equip us for every good work.” Note that I did not proof-text hunt that verse. It is a theme I see repeatedly in Scripture. From cover to cover the Bible wants us to be saved; it wants us to be in a right standing before God and to obey his commands. It starts that way in the garden and that is how God, who desires all to be saved (1 Tim 2:4), wants it to end.

I was trying to write a piece that didn’t overlap with another on inerrancy so much but I don’t thinks its feasible.

Vinnie

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I felt compelled to rewrite a section

As I have articulated on this website, I do not think God protected the human authors from all errors. My own view is that the purpose of the Bible is not to teach us accurate facts about history or science, but to train us in righteousness, equip us to do good works and most importantly, lead us to salvation through Christ (2 Tim 3:14-17). Since I believe God was suggestive rather than coercive, and his purpose was not teaching history or science when inspiring our sacred scripture, I do not have any issue with errors creeping into the text. I certainly don’t envision them being errors on God’s part. They are either human mistakes or limitations due to our “finite cultural and social horizons” that God chooses to speak through.

I believe a story from my own career can serve as an analogy for how I feel God sometimes works in changing the human condition. Early in my career as a new high school science teacher, I remember once asking my evaluator for advice on how to correct a student’s paragraph when almost everything about it was problematic (punctuation, spelling, grammar, sentence fragments, logical flow, etc.). There were so many things wrong with it, I honestly didn’t know where to begin without simply rewriting the entirety of the content myself. He gave me great advice and I paraphrase: “Pick one thing to focus on. Once that gets sorted, move on to something else.” Short of a global deluge and God pressing the reset button, every human flaw cannot be dealt with at once. God works continuously so that we can all write our own paragraphs.

God communicates with us intelligibly on our level as He progressively teaches us from within our fallen social structures (e.g. patriarchy, monarchy and slavery). Human hearts are transformed from the inside. I believe this is why Christian abolitionists were eventually pivotal in ending chattel slavery. We certainly wish it happened sooner, but that institution–in one form or another–has been nearly universal, occurring in almost every major culture and civilization throughout recorded history. Sadly this includes our own as millions of people are still the victim of human trafficking. In 1 Samuel 8, God acquiesced to Israel’s request for a human king (as opposed to Him ruling them). After they didn’t heed Samuel’s warning from the Lord, the final verdict was, “Listen to them and give them a king.” Because God chooses to operate this way and accommodate our brokenness, scripture does not need to be perfect in all details. Accommodate does not mean excuse or endorse. This is simply another a demonstration of God’s abundant mercy and grace—something we see all throughout scripture As St Paul says in Romans 5:8, “While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

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I don’t think it’s possible[1] to reconcile “a God who is truth and goodness” with the god described in the OT, which renders whether there are imperfections in scripture irrelevant.


  1. Without ignoring, retranslating or inventing, anyway. ↩︎

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That is a matter of opinion.
Christianity and the NT were not something totally novel. Instead, they were continuation of the teachings leaning on what the Hebrew Bible (OT) told. Hebrew Bible was the sacred scripture of the first Christians and they believed they were serving the same God.

There may be an apparent contrast between the God described in the Hebrew Bible and the God pictured by modern interpretations of the NT. That difference is mainly caused by blending modern worldviews to the teachings of churches. Modern teachings may have pictured God in a way that is not what the biblical scriptures tell. So, it is rather a difference between modern and ancient worldviews than a difference between OT and NT.

Some part of the difference may also be an increased understanding of God. I do not believe it is the main reason for the differences you described, although I do believe that our collective understanding about the teachings of the biblical scriptures may increase.

The God of OT is as good as the God of NT. The concept of ‘good’ in many modern worldviews may just differ from what the ancient scriptures probably meant with the word. We may also confuse ancient stories with an important spiritual teaching with modern types of literature, leading to somewhat twisted views about the character of God.

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I am sorry, but you have rose coloured glasses. The view of God in the Old Testament is very much a tribal one who only cares for His own. He sees nothing wrong with wiping out His enemies and His compassion comes after some sort of punishment or retribution. He relents, He does not forgive.

I think that is more the case than you attribute. Scripture is the human response and understanding of God. What the ancients attributed to God and what we do now are very different. Perhaps you believe God has sent this recent Snow problem to the UK? For what reason or purpose? The ancients would have no problem with blaming it all on God! They would not even think of asking why!

Richard

That makes a bad God worse.