Bad things happen to good people

[T_aquaticus]

@Dale

How do you observe for yourself an iceberg calving or ninety-seven million other objective events reported by scientists?

Satellite photos, before and after.

All scientific papers have a methods section which allows you to redo their work. You should be able to replicate their results if you follow their methods.

You’re playing the theodicy card again, I see. Sorry, but it doesn’t trump nor negate other realities.

Why not?

@Dale

And speaking of statistics (and ingenuousness* elsewhere), winning five lotteries in a day in the order that the tickets were bought doesn’t give you a clue that something was rigged. Not just one-off coincidences, but whole sets and series of otherwise discrete and disparate events, connected only by the mutual meaning infused.

Your claim is that these events could not happen if God did not exist. That’s the claim you need to support.

@Dale

I would be interested to see if you could provide comparable sets of concatenated series of events that were first person accounts and likewise recent.

That would be your job if in fact you are pursuing empirical evidence. You would need to show that such events only take place for those who believe in and trust God and not for those who do not believe. You need a control.

If we are talking about anecdotal evidence that you find compelling from a faith perspective, then I have no argument. I feel no need to tell people what they should or shouldn’t believe through faith. Where I do find disagreement is when someone claims to be presenting empirical evidence which has standards that must be met.