Why is God active in the world but we reject Intelligent Design?

You’re right. Thanx.

The Catholic church seems to be quite an interesting mix of a wide variety of approaches to a lot of things (perhaps in a breadth of variation that might surprise Protestants). I know of at least one Bishop (Robert Barron) who is a prolific Catholic voice on youtube who has no problem with evolutionary approaches (as long as they’re scientific), and he has no patience either with Scientism, nor with those who in their reaction against that, end up rejecting much of sound science. Here is a video (not Barron, but a featured speaker within his same “Word on Fire” ministry) explaining the Catholic church’s “position” on evolution (which was to essentially say … it doesn’t have one … but goes on to clarify that this shouldn’t be mistaken for opposition to science). But the speaker does go on to say things similar to what I’ve heard Barron teach about.

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As a Catholic, my understanding is that the only scientific fact (if you can call it that) that I’m obliged to believe is that the universe had a beginning and that God created it from nothing.

His attributes of omnipresence and immanence would more than suggest he is.

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The term, sure, but not the approach – it describes what scientists had been doing for several centuries.

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Hardly. Was Newton just an aberration?

Did he have a functioning Divinometer?

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The following from Principia could not capture better the essence of methodological naturalism, actually somewhat more strictly than is allowed in modern physics.

I have not as yet been able to deduce from phenomena the reason for these properties of gravity, and I do not feign hypotheses. For whatever is not deduced from the phenomena must be called a hypothesis; and hypotheses, whether metaphysical or physical, or based on occult qualities, or mechanical, have no place in experimental philosophy. In this experimental philosophy, propositions are deduced from the phenomena and are made general by induction. The impenetrability, mobility, and impetus of bodies, and the laws of motion and law of gravity have been found by this method. And it is enough that gravity should really exist and should act according to the laws that we have set forth and should suffice for all the motions of the heavenly bodies and of our sea.

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However I understand the data from GPS satellites (heavenly bodies ; - ) needs a little relativistic tweaking for accuracy,.

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Wait, aliens nuking the dinosaurs; building Teotihuacan as a space port; and producing Solomon’s Ring, the powerful laser cutter used for making smooth blocks for the temple, aren’t mundane?

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Why else are we called Homo divinus?

K-Mart stock Divinometers now. $15.90

Is the scientific method a myth?
Is the scientific method a myth? Perspectives from the history and philosophy of science | Sober | Metode Science Studies Journal (uv.es)

  • An “anthropomorphism” is the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a god, animal, or object.
    • Who or what anthropomorphizes a god, animal, or object?
  • “Deification” is the attribution of divine characteristics or behavior to a human, animal, or object.
    • Who or what deifies a human, animal, or object?

I think, the presence of build-in divinometer makes us Homo divinus. Somewhere in our brain. Or mind, I don’t know. It’s not my concept.

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Did you actually read this?

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The blue light will soon go dark in New Jersey. Kmart is getting ready to close its last store in the Garden State come October. Once that happens, there will be just two stores left in the U.S.

Kmart location in New Jersey set to close: Where 2 remaining stores will be – NBC New York.

I wonder how it works to buy up the remaining stock. :grin:

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Wow, I’m surprised to hear that. There are hundreds of Kmart stores in Australia.

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A divinometer would work for anyone under any circumstances giving verifiable and reproducible results. It would be able to distinguish between, for example, a burst of cosmic rays from a neutron star and one specifically created by God, or on a more mundane level would be able to tell whether the wine in a certain stone jar came from grapes via fermentation or directly from water (without any intermediate steps) by divine action.

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