Why a Designer?

We are fortunate to have the few formations that we have.

However, for the sake of argument, if you hold that the animals of the Cambrian were all created into existence ex nihilo, what do you suggest was the purpose of all that?

I dont know. Creation is a mystery, whatever it looks like.

Better to ask God that question.

Pehaps the reply would be that the tuning in nature was necessary and sufficient to bring about the kaleidoscope of life we have seen on Earth.

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There is nothing wrong with that suggestion, in fact I said something similar earlier when talking about making a curry.

The point is, evolution cannot prep, or fine tune in the way you suggest. It has no concious thought or thought process. God, on th eother hand, may well ave done just that. To get the finshed balance He needed to build it up slowly. (Though not in six or seven days, but millions of years.)

There is a ompleteness about Ecology that survival of the fittest doesn’t fit. Parasitism is one and symbiosis is the other, although they are extremes, Ecology shows cooperation that random development would find hard to produce because it involves to disparate changes occurring, not only simultaneously but within touching distance of each other.

it is said that we each have a perfect mate somewhere, but what if the partner lives in Australia (and you are in the US or UK?) symbiosis has the same constraints. If the two creatures never meet, the advantages will never be found. Survival of the fittest is negated.

IOW there are factors that evolutionary theory seems to overlook or ignore in its desperation to be the only means of change.

Richard

It’s preferable that you cite actual scientific sources. It’s especially bad when you link an article that uses arguments long ago discredited.

The article linked is actually contrary to concluding there is a Designer; it represents the very ‘philosophy’ that actually drove people away from God.

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you are either blind to reality, or a very ancient man. YEC has existed for thousands of years in Biblical writings It is a modern interpretation of biblical writings that has been infiltrated with the corruption of Old Age, not the apparent introduction of a New Age YEC. Your premise here is nonsense!

God’s providence can – through evolution. But that’s what you said, sort of. Maybe you’re catching on?

It’s interesting the language denialists use to try and strengthen their arguments. Just empty words with no support. Like their science.

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Do you think God uses planning and design in his providential interventions into his children’s lives, Richard?

You manage to twist everything you read!

Nothing in what you wrote here has anything to do with what you quoted or I wrote.

And what you wrote just repeats tired falsehoods. There’s nothing “modern” about reading Genesis and seeing that the universe and Earth are both very, very ancient, nor has YEC such an illustrious career as you paint. Down through Christian history the Genesis Creation story has been taken metaphorically, seen as a poetic description of something God did in an instant; allegorically, seen as an account with spiritual instruction but no historical relevance; and several others, though the astonishing one is still the Hebrew scholars back before Galileo ever picked up a lens who purely on the basis of the Hebrew concluded that the universe is old beyond imagination and the Earth old beyond counting – no science or philosophy driving them, just the text.

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And how they repeat their mantra about the text when in actuality they work at ignoring the text. I will note again what Augustine’s example teaches us: don’t do theology based on a translation!

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The article’s author is German paleontologist, Gunter Bechly (Ph.D), who has authored or co-authored more than 160 scientific publications, discovered and described more than 180 new species (incl. three new insect orders), and 11 biological groups have been named as eponyms by other scientists in his honor. He served on the editorial boards of five scientific journals (Petalura , Odonatologica , Archaeopteryx , Palaeodiversity , and BIO-Complexity).

What arguments are you referring to, exactly, that have been “long ago discredited”?

Really?

What “philosophy” are you referring to?

I think ID is infinitely more conducive to faith in God than ToE is. I imagine ToE would lead very few people to God, but hordes to atheism.

“Evolution is the greatest engine of atheism ever invented” - the late William B. Provine

Defining a favorite among millions is a bit of a challenge… I would have to think about that more extensively to give a precise answer.

As far as I’m aware, no one has found any close good candidates yet. Something resembling hemichordates would be a likely candidate, but as I said before–without preservation even beyond most Lagerstatten, they would just look like generic worms, because internal anatomy is required for identifying most of the modern phyla of worms.

Okay. Thanks for your opinion.

Lagerstatten - i didn’t know beer came from dirt.

Boy are you wrong there (at least in the U.S. where it goes hand in hand with young-earthism)! YECism chases many churched young people away and it is repugnant to others because of the good science revealing antiquity of the earth and cosmos. I can cite at least one survey that indicates so.

And there you go with your silly extremist language again – ‘hordes’. The vacuous vocabulary does not strengthen your arguments. At all.

Ah, good ol’ Günther. He does good paleontology except for the forest, the forest he cannot see because his nose is glued to the bark of a tree.

I wonder how much intervention you see? I am guessing it is more than most (I will stop short of saying more than is)

Scripture claims God has a purpose so that will, by default, include planning. I am not sure I can say anything else

Richard

Do you see planning and design in the interventions into Maggie’s and Rich Stearns’ lives?

A yes or no will suffice. (But that would be too short to be allowed to post. ; - )