It is interesting to watch how you are being treated here after such reflexive and kind, open, sincere, searching posts; even a moderator tells you to “keep ignoring.” I don’t find it a welcome culture here the way “This thread is ridiculous” is allowed, while simply and patiently holding BioLogos columnists accountable carefully to the way they express themselves with controversial terms is astonishingly disallowed by that same moderator & deleted from public. & there is no Thread to discuss moderation at BioLogos.
That said in defense of your ill treatment, Mike, I don’t find your position consistent, even taking into account implicit/explicit readings of Scripture. Even your “what the Bible says” is unnecessarily “conceptualist”, rather than a living faith in Christian fellowship globally with people who can help you to see what an anomaly YECism actually is. But I don’t think you have as far to go towards Christian orthodoxy on this topic as you seem to think.
A few suggestions:
- Reject evolutionism, as distinct from evolutionary biology. This puts you right in the center of BioLogos position. [Yes, even though Swamidass in this thread mistakenly thinks “closer to Jesus” means “further away from anti-evolutionism.”] It would not surprise me at all if you & I at least, along with George & quite a few others here are ready to say publically, are all strongly anti-evolutionism. Not shrouded in double-talk & nuance, but straight-up anti-evolutionism.
- Embrace (or at least drop the hostility towards or rejection of) evolutionary biology that does not challenge or call into question any “non-negotiable” part of Scripture. It shouldn’t be hard to accept those features of biology non-controversial to your worldview, which everyone here wishes to respect. Lay them out for us so that we can see you are willing to put in some work learning the basics of biology that most schoolchildren are taught.
- If you really are “unaware of any biblical verse or book that directly addresses the age of the earth or the universe,” then why not leave the age open to scientific input, even from orthodox Christians who are scientists? It might be that a small group of Americans has decided, on their own, that the book of Genesis, is the beginning & end of wisdom about the age of the Earth. If that is the case, then keep open the option that they might be totally deceived by ideology, while not seeing how it impacts and distorts their religious faith in the fetish of YECism.
These moves alone will likely make your “journey” at BioLogos more palatable, should you choose to stay.
As a 4th point, I’d suggest taking a break from reading American evangelical Protestant writers on this topic. Sorry, but that is about as safe a sociological suggestion one could make on this topic given the current state of the world. The Ken Kemp monogenesis article is great. He’s a Catholic who accepts historical Adam and Eve, monogenesis, biblical authority within apostolic tradition, and of course, an Earth not trapped by YEC ideological distortion. He’s more “traditional” than BioLogos who come across sometimes as evangelical revolutionaries. He’s also more “orthodox” than many at BIoLogos who often seem to have no orthodoxy to turn to on this topic beyond “personal theological hermeneutics.”
Finally, if you think the YECists who you consider “scientists” & authorities are not likewise (just as BioLogos is) rhetorically & ideologically invested, then I’m sure there’s another bridge somewhere for someone ready to sell you. We are all sinners, after all. Right, Mike? Some sin ideologically & it’s probably, given the social environment they grew up in, largely “not their fault.”
To most of the world, YECists are simply fanatics, so far outside of 21st century reality. But it’s a collectivist mentality to YECism that makes it a most peculiar; it is a martyr mindset as if they know something the “zombie Christians who accept biological evolution while rejecting evolutionism” don’t know. This “dark knowledge” aspect of YECism is something that most in the mainstream are not aware impinges on their every last and first argument.
The system that promotes YECism among Protestant evangelicals in USA, to outsiders, appears to be quite badly, tragically, excruciatingly broken. What are you doing to help fix it, Mike? Good wishes in whatever calling you receive from the Creator in this difficult position.