[quote="Christy, post:57, topic:26141"]
You can't really do that with words Roger. Just because a verb can be modified by the adverb 'constantly' does not mean that said action can be interchanged with the noun 'constant.'
[/ am not playing with words. I am using words as they are intended to reveal meaning. The question is, Can change be a constant? I say yes even though we generally think based on our Greek philosophical bias that change and constant are opposites.
The ancients believed that the earth did not move, that the earth was "constant," and this was is basic to Aristotle's system of thought. They also said that then Bible says that the earth does not move. Galileo got into trouble when he challenged this.
My research indicates that the Bible does not say that the earth does not move, but that God established or fixed the earth. To the ancient mind this meant that the earth did not move, but to my modern mind this meant that God established the earth in her orbit around the sun, which has not changed.
The earth does move, which means that it does change position in time and space, and yet that move is constant, so the earth does not move outside the orbit God created for her. Change and Constant are not opposites, when thought of scientifically and theologically.
George made the observation that the environment is constantly changing, and came up with the conclusion that it is foolish to try to find any order in it. I said that if the only constant in life is change, then change is a constant. That is true, just like the only constant is life is death.
The question that you and I have been arguing is: Can humans claim that life and reality have order or not? I say Yes, and you and George as I hear you, say No. Taken as a whole, theology, philosophy, and science agree that life and reality have meaning and order. This is the only claim I am making.
Now we might not understand how this order works, but because we do not live in a world of chaos, although some people seem hell bent to make this world into hell and chaos. Nonetheless underneath the change of this world is God's scientific order and God's moral order. Just because we do not see it does not mean it is not there and we should deny its existence and give up our search for it.