What are your thoughts on the depictions of dinosaurs in cinema?

My kids wanted to visit the Royal Tyrrell Museum when they watched that! (where Dino Dan goes to visit)

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IMHO, it is well worth the visit.

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Neat! Have you been there? I think they were famous for Albertasaurus. I have not been there. My wife’s uncle actually lives fairly near there (as distances go in Canada), and we thought of making the trip sometime. Thanks.

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There aren’t too many dinosaur things in Nebraska, but they got a lot in neighborhood Wyoming (though I haven’t gone to any so far because they are so far away!).

Actually just saw someone trying to push a “dinosaurs are fake to push evolution” narrative in a video that went past me today. It’s so saddening to see that people will go to great lengths to convince not only themselves but also others that they are being lied to and their brothers and sister are in conspiracy against them.

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Royal Tyrrell is paleontological crown jewel. Here is my picture of their Borealopelta fossil, somewhat sqashed, but with preserved imprint of external features giving a good idea of what the animal looked like.

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That’s quite amazing. It makes you wonder that, had it not been for the meteor, would God have established a relationship with some raptor species, assuming they continued to grow in intelligence.

It also goes to show that God is the greatest painter. So many alien species designs often have to rely on current animals for inspiration. Meanwhile, you look back at the past few geological eras and lo and behold, you have several categories of animals that all look like something the first interstellar humans would find on a planet with alien life.

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Jurassic Park revolutionized cinema AND Dinosaurs by creating the most accurate-for-the-time Dinosaurs ever seen using cutting edge special effects. Everybody LOVED it when it came out. Majority of people still LOVE it. And it deserves all the love it gets. Unfortunately, many no-name paleontologists grasping for attention often use Jurassic Park as an example of how awful Dinosaurs are portrayed in media, OVER THIRTY YEARS LATER! And wont give it a break, despite it being more important than they will ever be. These people constantly compare JP to reality. They simply cannot forgive the film for not being able to see into the future and have “accurate” Dinosaurs… Which in another Thirty years will also be inaccurate… I’d like them to point on the doll where Jurassic Park touched them.

I find paleontology to be far too fraught with ideas being pushed as reality.

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I haven’t been reading everything you write, so maybe you aren’t doing this. But for you or anybody else who may be … Learn to distinguish between real science (say … actual paleontology) and popular portrayals of “sciency” kinds of things generated in the entertainment industry (i.e. movies like Jurassic Park). Popular culture pushes lots of stuff that goes far beyond what science itself actually supports (and many times pushing things that are even contradicted by real science).

A relevant cartoon from the humor thread…

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Yet when asked for examples, you disappear.

Which palaeontologists are pushing made-up ideas as reality?

Who is adding feathers to T Rex because they want them to be feathered?

Which palaeontologists are ignoring evidence and making up what they want to see?

Unless you can back your complaints up with actual examples, all you are doing is whining.

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I’ve already given examples. Torosaurus and Quetzalcoatlus are others. Everyone just sees what they want to see. Quetzalcoatlus couldn’t even fly. And Torosaurus is just Triceratops.

Anyone involved in the field on Youtube.

Ever see anything by @DrJoelDuff

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No. I’ll check him out though. He might be refreshing.

As for the rest. Trey the Explainer is a Youtube Dinosaur grifter and an example of what I’m on about.

When it comes to YouTube you can find examples of just about anything.

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You have not.

More whining.

If you want to criticise paleontologists, quote their actual publications rather than just spouting vague claims.

:backhand_index_pointing_up: :rofl:

That’s not ReAl science!

No true Scotsman.

For a forum where you want to have your science but keep your faith, I find your attitude puzzling. There is more mental gymnastics and nonsense going on here than on any Youtube channel. Tell me the journal or university where Biologos is seriously discussed and researched?

So not an actual palaeontologist.

You know these people reach Millions of others? They are the new faces of these subjects. No one is reading journals. And all they discuss in Uni is where the nearest safe space is.

Therizinosaurus is only the coolest Dinosaur these days and all the kids are talking about it. Even though it’s just a pair of incomplete hands… They don’t know that because Youtube and paleo-art has cemented the thing as an Ostrich.

And everyone literally denies physics to get their favourite giant Pterosaur into the air.

You certainly aren’t.

How would you know? You’ve obviously never been to one.

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I cannot deny that when Jurassic Park came out, it was as accurate to the times as possible. The only uncertainty would be the velociraptors, as no raptor had been discovered to be that large until that point (though, Utahraptors were discovered during the production of the movie, and for some period after the movie came out, people refer to the raptors as Utahraptors).

However, my “criticism,” so to say, is that the Jurassic franchise has kept with their designs and (especially in recent times) haven’t been doing much of their “scientific revelation maintenance.” As I mentioned, in Jurassic Park 3, they made the T-Rex a scavenger and gave the raptors some feathers. I think where this really shows is Jurassic World Dominion. I’ll probably be one of the few people to say this was a good movie. However, even though Biosyn supposedly made “more realistic dinosaurs than ever,” we clearly see that is t the case: we have no evidence that Pyroraptor could swim in freezing conditions! Gigantosaurus didn’t have a back spine! I would have appreciated if they went with a “slightly modified to be cooler” angle that inadvertently made them more dangerous due to the genetic variation, as this would kinda be a good way to show Michael Criton’s original angle of “don’t play God;” the Biosyn executives didn’t want accuracy but rather more dangerous animals.

Other dinosaur movies (such as 65) also use weird versions of dinosaurs.

Your response here took more care and better writing ability than they put in for that whole film.

To be fair, Jurassic Park itself was only as good as it was because it was originally written as a novel by a genuine genius. Hollywood cannot write. It can only take a story written by someone who knew what they were doing, and transfer it.

Might as well have been a Star Wars film. I don’t even know what they were trying to do with that one.

This is my point. They do now. According to the mainstream and every Dinosaur fan alive, this is what they know. This is what they believe to be the case.

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