What are the counters for this theory against the resurrection?

[mitchellmckain (Scientist and Christian)]

This idea of a twin is quite a vast conspiracy by Jesus’ family to keep a twin hidden from public view. LOL And why did they do this? They planned on creating the whole Christian religion with a staged resurrection. WOW That is more planning and intentionality in the creation of Christianity than I even believe God had. Quite impressive. LOL

[Vinnie]

@Roy

Even if some of the disciples did believe they’d seen a risen Jesus and did die rather than recant their belief, that doesn’t mean they were right. Plenty of people have martyred themselves for other beliefs.

This was already stated up front. I am not sure why you are quoting me and responding to me with a something I directly stated in post #2.

@Vinnie

Many of them believe he appeared to them as well. But that doesn’t mean he actually did. Just ask all the Protestants who deny Marian apparitions that can be much more strongly attested–including some in more modern times.

Some of them dying for their belief means they took it seriously. We can go no further. We can state unequivocally on historical grounds that some of Jesus’s earliest followers believed he came back to them after death on a Roman cross.

[Roy]

@Vinnie

@Roy

Even if some of the disciples did believe they’d seen a risen Jesus and did die rather than recant their belief, that doesn’t mean they were right. Plenty of people have martyred themselves for other beliefs.

This was already stated up front. I am not sure why you are quoting me and responding to me with a something I directly stated in post #2.

I can’t find it in post #2…

[Vinnie]

It was quoted for you.

[Roy]

That doesn’t say anything about people being martyred or dying for their beliefs.

[St.Roymond]

@Vinnie

I spent a long time debating with Jesus mythicists. Much more than I should have. They essentially do what fundamentalists do when harmonizing away evidence contrary to their beliefs: retreat defensively up a never ending apologetical hill with what ifs and ultraskepticism.

Same reason I gave up on “higher criticism” – make the right assumptions and you can argue for anything.