Thoughts on “paranormal” stuff

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Haven’t you come across the notions that cults and conspiracy theories often claim to possess exclusive, “secret knowledge” or specialized senses that allow them to perceive an underlying reality, a “truth,” or hidden dangers missed by the public? :wink:

Theories of the paranormal are ultimately up against Occam’s Razor. While science allows there could be some mysterious somethings bumping around in the night, but it’s far more likely to be nothing at all.

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Our eyes are electro-chemical devices.

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It is very easy to dismiss Biblical miracles and paranormal as superstition and ignorance. It falls into the same category and conflicts as the creation naratives.
The Bible suggests that there is an ongoing war between good and evil, that may or may not have already been won depending on your view of the passion of Christ. What is clear is that much of this conflict is on a spiritual or non-physical plane.
Clearly we are not on the New Earth or even the last days, so , dismissing the paranormal or non-physical would seem to be folly. The Devil works best in the shaddows, unseen and ignored.
This is not to suggest we obsess about such things, only not to completely ignore or dismiss them.

Richard

My studies of science has shown me that Occam’s Razor is nonsense. Simplicity is irrelevant. All that matters is the evidence, and the complexity of what the evidence shows is extreme. To be sure, we prefer simplicity – and nothing is simpler than “God made it so” and “God says so.” And when we have more than one explanation/model/math which agrees with the evidence then we DO NOT throw everything away but the simplest. We keep them all, for we often find them useful in different circumstances.

The problem with the paranormal is not a lack of simplicity. It is a lack of evidence. But all that lack of evidence means is we have no reasonable basis for expecting other people to agree either way on things where there is no evidence. Science and evidence clearly has limits and neither can say the paranormal and spiritual does not exist. And it is foolish to assume the limits of your experience is the limit of reality itself. BUT reality is not purely objective. Belief has a very real impact on reality. Psychologist are forced to recognize its role in perception. So for me the important question is what purpose does the belief serve? What do we really want to make a part of our reality? God? absolutely. devil and demons? absolutely NOT!

The Bible “suggests” a lot of things to a lot of people. But what does it actually say? Yes it uses warfare metaphors a few times in parables, but an actual war going on between good and evil? Only in Revelation 12 where it speak of a war in heaven. This is the same book which speaks of all kinds of strange beasts and monsters – quite an apt book for people to read into it whatever they want. No thank you.

This is not in the Bible,

Disguises himself as an angel of light? Yes – loves to twist religion to his purpose.

Uses principalities, powers, and rulers of the world? Yes. Again the opposite of working in shadows.

Like a roaring lion? Yes. Nothing quiet or secretive about that.

No. The devil works best by holding your attention and convincing you of his power. I think the devil is all about preying on people’s need to find other things to blame their problems on.

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