"The universe can and will create itself from nothing."

What’s neat and in need of further development is how the internal testimony of the Spirit in those 2 passages is paired with the apostolic witness.

One of my most defining experiences with God came in relation to faithful preaching of the Word.

This is also being modeled in Peter’s sermon at Pentecost where the “therefore know for certain” is based on the apostolic witness of the resurrection, the testimony of Scripture with fulfilled prophecy, and the self-evident work of the Spirit.

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To that I say, Amen!

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I love that, I think I’ve said before. And such experience can be sought and found as well – some are fortunate to get it unsought too, even undesired. Woe to those who get it and repudiate it though.

Or at least it can appear that way from within… Flatman cannot see the ball passing through his world, only the dot that gets bigger and then smaller again.

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Good analogy about the extradimentionality that some are in denial about. You maybe have read Flatland?

I stole the analogy from Flatland :slight_smile:

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Even in a 2D world, the dot either appears from nothing, or it… and yet in appearing from nothing, the dot may continue to expand without ever becoming all encompassing.

It’s really perplexing how simple the analogy is.

John Betz writes in Hamann Before Kierkegaard,

“For both of them, anxiety betrays the legerdemain, the comical self-deception, of every speculative attempt to sleight the difference between God and human beings; and, as such, it is at bottom an existential category, as it would be for Heidegger.”

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