Cosmology was a factor? (I’m still listening to it in bits and pieces. ; - )
- No laboratory, no experiment, no measuring stick, no clock = no science?
I thought that posts had to examine the relationship of science to faith. But it’s not your post, so maybe HeyMike can answer this question.
Sure. When I started the interview I didn’t know if there was an angle that would allow me to post the interview here. As I listened to Worthen’s story and loved it, I thought it’d be a stretch to link it to the Space Trilogy, but the connection to Francis Collins was a solid link in my opinion.
That her work as a historian, figures so prominently in her conversion, that could be an area (albeit debatable) that looks at the relationship between faith and science.
Yes, ma’am.
These quotes don’t do justice to the ebb and flow of Molly’s voice, yet they are perceptive words nonetheless.
I guess every conversion is a series of epiphanies. Once you’ve had the epiphany, you’re like, How could I’ve ever been so dumb, right? So this isn’t a category. I mean, here, I am a historian of Christianity, certainly not a first century specialist. But yeah, a historian of Christianity. And I had always conceived myself as unusually open to the claims of Christianity sincerely open. But I only realized in this process last summer that I really had not been.
I was praying for some sort of warm and fuzzy, mystical intervention. And it didn’t happen. I just got to the point in August, where I thought, Well, gosh, if I am a consistent pragmatist, I have to admit that I have gotten over that line of the resurrection being the best explanation for the historical evidence we have. And if that’s true, I have to change my working hypothesis of the universe.
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- Sounds like she’s ready for the Shroud of Turin.
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Flaws in atheism. Timestamp 1:19:53
Molly:
…I was thinking through all the kind of atheist evolutionary psychology explanations one can offer for religious behavior, the most glaring… there are a lot of flaws in that account I’ve come to see, but the most glaring one is there’s no good account for that feeling of longing, that feeling of connecting with this intelligence beyond us,…
Joy. Timestamp 1:32:17
Collin:
This has been a joy to see the joy of the Lord in your face, to hear it in your voice, to be able to hear that story, to be able to revel in God’s delicious ironies in so many different ways!
Yay, a new sister!
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That has to do with science, in case anyone is wondering.
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Excellent point Dale! I didn’t see that one.
- On the other hand, if my “default bias” is Anti-(E/e)vangelical I’d be inclined to deny that anyone who claims to be one or support them has a place at any table that I sit at.
Mentions of the influence of Francis definitely count as relevant content. Indeed “BioLogos in the News!” He has spoken with her recently and Molly is a BL fan!
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The goalposts are shifting.
Definitely worth the time to watch!
I especially appreciated her perspective, however brief, on how YECism sprouted, given how it differs from what I’ve concluded.
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One thing that made me cringe was talking about being “re-baptized”, which shows a total lack of understanding about what baptism is. The only way that “re-baptism” could be possible is if God could make mistakes, because if we take the Apostles seriously baptism is something God does to us.
That said, if it’s looked at from the perspective of married people who renew their wedding vows it has a significance: those vows don’t change their marital status, but they take that status and celebrate it.
My sister had an annotated copy of the Narnia books, achieved over several summers of all of us camping at a Christian festival where she started the custom of reading from the books during the afternoon break when everyone stayed in the shade during the hottest hour and when any of us recognized a reference whether scriptural, historical, philosophical, or theological we would raise a hand and she would make a note in the margin. In the first volume she ran out of margin space and started sticking on post-it notes, often several layers.
I don’t know what happened to her set, but I wish I had access to all the notes!
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It didn’t bother me, but I can appreciate what you are saying as my church baptizes children and someone would not need to be rebaptized if they later came to faith as an adult.
Pretty much agree. The only people who re-baptize are the Anabaptists and the Latter-Day Saints.
Baptists do not recognize infant baptism, which may correspond with someone who was baptized as an adult, but was not a believer at the time of their baptism.
I think many Pentecostal churches also do not recognize infant baptism